Can Khan be the next Brit to beat an old legend to secure his HOF credentials

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  • Boxing Bully
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Barrera was picked by Warren if it was such a dangerous fight for Khan it would not be happening.

    Barrera's inactivity is a HUGE factor and he is not a LW.

    When was JMM p4p number 1?

    The fight its more 60/40 it favours Khan imo.
    I didnt say JMM was ever P4P number one.

    And i didn't say it was a hugely dangerous fight.

    Inactivity only affects stamina, fitness, speed (things that i had mentioned in my post).

    Inactivity would not affect barreras ring savvy, experience over a younger fighter.

    Like i said, this is a HUGE step up in CLASS. Not danger

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    • Abstraction
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      #12
      Nah.

      Calzaghe v RJJ and Hopkins were different because:

      a) They were disgraces for happening, since they could have and should have happened earlier.

      b) They were 40+ and going to retire

      c) They were "Career defining fights" for Calzaghe, which made it even worse

      d) Calzaghe was favorite in both bouts.

      e) They were bouts one would expect to have as "Thank you" bouts or "Good Bye" bouts, not bouts to have at the "Peak" of someones career.

      i can go on and on but..

      As for Khan v Barrera.

      Khan is not a champion yet and has no world titles.

      Barrera is on the decline, but is still 34. This is not a "Career defining fight" for Khan, it's a normal bout. A Bout which the majority feel Barrera is going to win, probably by KO.

      It obviously a HOF bout, but Khan has more to lose than Barrera, and will probably lose, but if he wins, he'd have done someone thing Calzaghe has never done. Take a risk.

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #13
        Originally posted by Boxing Bully
        also let me add... Khan winning this fight well WILL prove something.

        It will prove that his defense has gotten better because if a slightly past it HoF Barrera can't knock him down/out, when a shot Gomez, 'bums' like willie limond etc have knocked him down before, then yeah... that shows improvement doesnt it?

        Well that depends, because fighters come down in levels when they start to deteriorate and they are capable of losing to less talented guys who have more energy etc.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing Bully
          I didnt say JMM was ever P4P number one.

          And i didn't say it was a hugely dangerous fight.

          Inactivity only affects stamina, fitness, speed (things that i had mentioned in my post).

          Inactivity would not affect barreras ring savvy, experience over a younger fighter.

          Like i said, this is a HUGE step up in CLASS. Not danger

          No ring activity effects timing,reactions etc.

          Id rather Khan fought Murray than Barrera at this stage.

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          • Silencers
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            #15
            The other guys had already accomplished quite a lot before beating those fighters, Khan needs to accomplish much more to get into the HOF, he can't live off of 1 win over a faded Barrera.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #16
              What i dont like about this fight is.....what does Barrera have to gain?

              Barrera is one of my heroes and i dont want to say him getting whipped or out boxed by a guy, because he is too big and young.

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              • Silencers
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                #17
                I guess it proves he belongs at lightweight, most people regard his comeback as a farce right now, beating Khan could be a way of legitimizing his lightweight run.

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                • Second Coming
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                  #18
                  I don't particularly like British fighters but DAMMMMMNNNNN ya'll a bunch of haters!

                  Barrera will whoop that boys ass.

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                  • S.G.
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minion
                    Nah.

                    Calzaghe v RJJ and Hopkins were different because:

                    a) They were disgraces for happening, since they could have and should have happened earlier.

                    b) They were 40+ and going to retire

                    c) They were "Career defining fights" for Calzaghe, which made it even worse

                    d) Calzaghe was favorite in both bouts.

                    e) They were bouts one would expect to have as "Thank you" bouts or "Good Bye" bouts, not bouts to have at the "Peak" of someones career.

                    i can go on and on but..

                    As for Khan v Barrera.

                    Khan is not a champion yet and has no world titles.

                    Barrera is on the decline, but is still 34. This is not a "Career defining fight" for Khan, it's a normal bout. A Bout which the majority feel Barrera is going to win, probably by KO.

                    It obviously a HOF bout, but Khan has more to lose than Barrera, and will probably lose, but if he wins, he'd have done someone thing Calzaghe has never done. Take a risk.
                    first off, Calzaghe - Hopkins turned out to be a completely different kettle of fish to the other fights mentioned... This fight is not comparable to that unless Barrera not only wins, but absolutely massacres Khan, taking into account the difference in skill and stature between Khan and Calzaghe

                    i would say this IS a career defining fight for Khan thus far, as it's pretty much his make or break opportunity

                    34 in Super Bantamweight years is ancient, and Barrera is not quite as efficient at fighting economically and at a suitable pace for his age as B-Hop - the greatest "old fighter" ever.

                    Khan has more to lose than Barrera, certainly. But he also has a great reward if he wins... A reward that more than compensates for the risk

                    The Prescott fight turned out to be the most credible fight in Khan's career, and he was destroyed... A rematch should be in much higher demand than this fight, which is damn near a farce in my opinion

                    i'd say Khan's chances of winning are 70-30

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Silencers
                      I guess it proves he belongs at lightweight, most people regard his comeback as a farce right now, beating Khan could be a way of legitimizing his lightweight run.

                      What is annoying me Silencers is i know how poorly Boxing is covered in Britain in the main stream media. The general public with view Khan as something he isn't if he beats MAB. MAB's stock will fall and too.

                      Who is to say Barrera cant get stopped by Khan? Khan might not be a HUGE hitter, but he has accuracy and speed that the old guy might not see coming and we all know which punches do more damage, the ones that you dont see coming.

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