Insider Notebook: Pacquiao is MIA, Mosley is Confident

[aztecadq]

You know what, ****m is very wrong here, in my opinion. Mosley is not the student of the game that Hopkins is. Not at all, and when the going gets tough Mosley falls back on bad habits. We saw it in the Mayorga fight, we saw it against Wright and Forrest. He might train like a twenty year old student of the game but when he gets in the ring on fight night he is a different fighter, and he does rely too much on his old style, which he needs to change more if he is truly a student of the game, like Hopkins has.

Very Good point, and I totally agree. Hopkins is very different from Mosley. If you compare them you see two different outcomes. Hopkins has overcame most of his tough opposition when he was counted out. Mosley hasn't. Mosley wasn't able to beat Forrest, Wright, Cotto etc.,, I think Mosley is just like Roy Jones. We have seen the best already and now he fights just on pure talent.

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By Robert Morales - Promoter Bob Arum had just gotten off a plane in Los Angeles about 2:30 p.m. West Coast time Wednesday when he engaged us in a telephone conversation. He confirmed what had already been reported on BoxingScene.com, that the proposed May 2 fight between his Manny Pacquiao and Golden Boy Promotions' Ricky Hatton "is off."

The deadline for Pacquiao to sign the revamped contract that called for a Pacquiao guarantee of $12 million and a 52-48 split of upside revenue favoring Pacquiao had come and gone early Wednesday morning. Arum was not a happy camper. He was asked straight out if he was perturbed at Pacquiao and his lawyer - Franklin "Jeng" Gacal - for
not accepting the deal.

"Well, it doesn't make me happy," said Arum, trying to practice some diplomacy.

Originally, Arum and Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer had agreed on a 50-50 split. The two then came to terms on the 52-48 split. The original guarantee was $11 million for Pacquiao, which was his guarantee for his fight last month against Oscar De La Hoya.

"They had copies of the contract and they were fussing about this and that and so they told me that Manny wouldn't sign and I said, 'OK,' " Arum said. "So the fight goes off and life goes on. I think everybody is sorry to hear that. What can I do? It's Manny's
decision."

Was it? Arum said that after the pot was sweetened, he was led to believe that that would seal the deal.

"Then they came back with more demands and the deal fell apart," Arum said.

Perhaps what is sticking in Arum's craw the most is the very idea that Pacquiao never touched base with him or trainer Freddie Roach. [details]

I mean, Not sure what Manny Pacquiao is trying to prove. Sure he is the most popular at the moment & has fought in tougher fights than Hatton to some degree but over all I think he is forgetting that it is a business & Ricky will potentially make him more $ than De La Hoya did if promoted right. He's in a win/win situation, to me it has nothing to do with respect, I just think that he doesn't want to fight or maybe he is feeling himself too much because if he doesn't take the fight & goes to fight Valero, he is going to get MUCH LESS. Anyways I'm tired of this same talk and write ups on the boxing sites so lets get back to business.

I agree with ****m with his analogy in regards to Hopkins because Bernhard is a fighter that can learn and fight very technical & has the power, chin & ability to be a brawler but preserves his body by out smarting his opponents. Mosley on the other hand has NEVER been a technical fighter, he has only been fast and durable but he always tries to brawl against guys that boxed him (Forrest/Winky) Unless ****m has really had a big influence on Shane's mental and changed his approach in the ring then he has a chance IF he fights smart. But if he goes in trying to out slug a durable slugger like Margarito then he is going down. The only boxer/fighter that can beat a guy like Margarito is a technical/tactician that can out smart him & make his pressure & power become his flaws like Pal Williams did to him & Bhop did to Pavlik.

[mrlopez]

***in Palomino is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

Margarito WTKO8

[C.Y.]

You know what, ****m is very wrong here, in my opinion. Mosley is not the student of the game that Hopkins is. Not at all, and when the going gets tough Mosley falls back on bad habits. We saw it in the Mayorga fight, we saw it against Wright and Forrest. He might train like a twenty year old student of the game but when he gets in the ring on fight night he is a different fighter, and he does rely too much on his old style, which he needs to change more if he is truly a student of the game, like Hopkins has.

EXACTLY GREAT POST

I always thought Mosley was a fast handed brawler with no true boxing/technical skills.. He's never really been able to make adjustments. I think he has certain advantages over Margarito such as speed and experience, but I do not think he will be able to put whatever skills and experience he has to use.. He can beat Margarito, but I do not think he will beat Margarito

[Doc Holliday]

***in Palomino is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

Margarito WTKO8

Ha Ha, really. That line cracked me up.

[FLY TY]

Pacquiao has kinda dug himself into a hole now, I mean it seems like he's banking on a Mayweather fight or a big fight at welterweight against either Margarito or Cotto, who as Roach pointed out, are tied up, Mayweather would never let him have a bigger percentage of the purse and I would be very surprised if Mayweather gives him 50-50, if Mayweather comes back, he'd probably fight Hatton anyways because there's still more money there.

Richardson makes some good points but Hopkins never relied as much on speed and reflexes as Mosley did, student of the game or not, Mosley relied on his speed and reflexes to get in and out on his opponents without getting hit, now that he has slowed down and his reflexes have started to slow, he's getting hit much more, especially with right hands over the top. But they do seem very confident in winning.

I didn't think Cotto won the Mosley fight with his pressure, his pressure was pretty ineffective against Mosley, he was outboxing Mosley with his jab. I respect Palomino though.

mosley was just as confident against cotto, and it was a good, good fight. you're right, cotto pulled ahead when he BOXED.

I've said this before: Pacquiao being unwilling to talk directly to his trainer is a VERY bad sign of where he is at mentally.

i think arum is making deals without his fghters knowing. the shane/tony fight had the same problems. arum told golden boy 50/50 & they agreed. but when it was time for tony to sign he was like **** that & disappeared. now the same thing is happening with this fight.

this is the same **** margarito pulled....the article did say ARUM and GBP had made the 50/50 deal, who's to say pac had any input at all. ppl have to know ALL the facts before they criticize the man on being greedy or scared. good point.

I like Shane's frame of mind .......****m made a good point, the 20yr old RJJ would destroy todays RJJ while todays B-Hop would take the 20yr old B-Hop to school......I never heard this type of comparison before....this got me thinkin' now ......as far as Pac, if he gets 50-50 from Floyd I'll be shocked! Pac f.u.c.k.e.d. up!

same thing i though. very true.

You know what, ****m is very wrong here, in my opinion. Mosley is not the student of the game that Hopkins is. Not at all, and when the going gets tough Mosley falls back on bad habits. We saw it in the Mayorga fight, we saw it against Wright and Forrest. He might train like a twenty year old student of the game but when he gets in the ring on fight night he is a different fighter, and he does rely too much on his old style, which he needs to change more if he is truly a student of the game, like Hopkins has.

he may indeed be a student of the game, but you can't really compare anybody to hopkins......

as for the mayorga fight, shane was on a year layoff, and mayorga is a "diff" style of fighter altogether......its hard to "box" against mayorga....ask forrest.

winky is completely underrated, that's why he was eluded fo so long. he's another guy ppl tend to avoid, cuz its nearly impossible to look good against him, let alone "beat him up."

all that being said, margarito brings a diff type of style than any of those fighters. we'll have to let this fight unfold, but this is eerily similar of the way ppl thought of pavlik-hopkins before it went down.....pavlik was too young and supposed to "overwhelm" the old guy, and win the fight on activity, if he didn't end up stopping hopkins. styles make fights,and i've always said a good, fast boxer is what beats margarito, trying to trade with him is a mistake, cuz that's all he can do. hope shane comes to box, not brawl.

[HappyBoxingFan]

Pacquiao should really call Roach back and stop being a miserable prick

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EXACTLY GREAT POST

I always thought Mosley was a fast handed brawler with no true boxing/technical skills.. He's never really been able to make adjustments. I think he has certain advantages over Margarito such as speed and experience, but I do not think he will be able to put whatever skills and experience he has to use.. He can beat Margarito, but I do not think he will beat Margarito

Mosley may not be a boxer in the conventional sense but he's quite crafty in the ring and has loads of experience. Combined with his hand speed, strength and chin - he's a handful for ANY welter, including Margarito. That said, I expect Tony to win a tough, well-earned decision.

[Pullcounter]

I mean, Not sure what Manny Pacquiao is trying to prove. Sure he is the most popular at the moment & has fought in tougher fights than Hatton to some degree but over all I think he is forgetting that it is a business & Ricky will potentially make him more $ than De La Hoya did if promoted right. He's in a win/win situation, to me it has nothing to do with respect, I just think that he doesn't want to fight or maybe he is feeling himself too much because if he doesn't take the fight & goes to fight Valero, he is going to get MUCH LESS. Anyways I'm tired of this same talk and write ups on the boxing sites so lets get back to business.

hatton's money can't buy him the legacy that beating pac can get him. even beating dlh is useless because pac already destroyed him.

I agree with ****m with his analogy in regards to Hopkins because Bernhard is a fighter that can learn and fight very technical & has the power, chin & ability to be a brawler but preserves his body by out smarting his opponents. Mosley on the other hand has NEVER been a technical fighter, he has only been fast and durable but he always tries to brawl against guys that boxed him (Forrest/Winky) Unless ****m has really had a big influence on Shane's mental and changed his approach in the ring then he has a chance IF he fights smart. But if he goes in trying to out slug a durable slugger like Margarito then he is going down. The only boxer/fighter that can beat a guy like Margarito is a technical/tactician that can out smart him & make his pressure & power become his flaws like Pal Williams did to him & Bhop did to Pavlik.

i agree with you. mosley has never been a great technical boxer. mosley is closer to rjj than hopkins.

what ****m can do is strategize the best tactics to use against money marg's flaws.

[DuttyAlacrity]

yea i think pac-man messed up on this one 12 million guaranteed is a whole lotta money. I also like shane's chances this weekend. ****m is a ring genius.