How Many ATGs Has Floyd Beaten???

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  • Tha_Greatest
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    #81
    Originally posted by catalinul
    Well actually if you wanna believe it or not the ***in WBC made Hatton a mandatory.It was just to make the fight.
    i know, they knew they could cash in , its all politics, rickey and floyd shouldve just was a big event type fight,**** it, wbc did that, not like they care who is really the top opponent for belt,

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    • catalinul
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      #82
      Originally posted by FasTHarD
      Mayweather never beat an ATG aside from Oscar who don't deserved to be an ATG...

      Mayweathers resume is overrated.. Too much nutthugging on his "0" since Floyd

      recognize it.. He retire in his prime and ducked his comp to secure his legacy to be ATG

      for his "0"... He just don't deserved to be an ATG.... Corrales/Castillo no way to be

      HOFers they just give us good fights but they hardly going to HOF....
      Have you seen how easy it is too get in the HOF now?Castillo is a sure HOFer.They are talking about putting Gatti in there.Corrales might just get in.

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        #83
        Originally posted by andrewcuff
        Because when he was younger, he would beat his opponent using all of his skills. He wouldn't simply potshot and run. He's become much more defensively minded as he's moved up in weight.
        Potshot and run is an exaggeration. And as he went up in weight his power diminished as his opponents power increased. Fighting defensively was the intelligent course of action.

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        • Tha_Greatest
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          #84
          Originally posted by catalinul
          Nope,you are right but at least the Trinidad fight was daylight robbery.
          8 rounds to 4, others have it 9 to 3, trinidad fans or oscar haters probably have given tito 8 rounds. either than the last 2 rounds i dont remember a 1 round tito won big, he barely won 2 other rounds by very little

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            #85
            Fighting defensively was the intelligent course of action.
            Of course it is intelligent, but it means his more exciting fights are probably behind him. Imagine if he did get in the ring with Pacquiao/Cotto/Margarito? He wouldn't stop running all night! I don't see the point in moving up in weights if you aren't going to fight the best in each division and if you don't have the power. You can hardly call yourself the best in the world under 154 if you cannot hurt one of the top fighters there and have to rely on a quick getaway after each punch.

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              #86
              Originally posted by larryx
              oscar lost all his big fights
              Whitaker?? Vargas?? Quartey?? Chavez??? Camacho??? Hernandez(the same guy who is considered one of Floyd's greatest wins)???

              Those were big fights too.

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                #87
                Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                Oscars not even an ATG

                If Oscar isn't an ATG, neither is Tito.

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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by catalinul
                  Have you seen how easy it is too get in the HOF now?Castillo is a sure HOFer.They are talking about putting Gatti in there.Corrales might just get in.
                  hall of fame dont mean **** like before, o.k. that said they can name arturo gatti as a hall of fame fighter,i still wont credit floyd with a great win, they can name anybody that floyds faught to hall of fame, i just wont credit floyd with with a great win, unless they were that good

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    Of course it is intelligent, but it means his more exciting fights are probably behind him. Imagine if he did get in the ring with Pacquiao/Cotto/Margarito? He wouldn't stop running all night!.
                    If he did step in the ring they would lose.


                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    I don't see the point in moving up in weights if you aren't going to fight the best in each division and if you don't have the power.
                    The point is to challenge yourself and nobody is saying he doesn't have the power. Just not as much as he did at lower weights.

                    Originally posted by andrewcuff
                    You can hardly call yourself the best in the world under 154 if you cannot hurt one of the top fighters there and have to rely on a quick getaway after each punch.
                    He KO'd/TKO'd Gatti, Hatton, Mitchell, and probably more at his higher weights.

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                      #90
                      If he did step in the ring they would lose.
                      Please explain why you are so certain of this.

                      He KO/TKO'd Gatti, Hatton, Mitchell, and probably more at his higher weights
                      I'm quoting Floyd here: Gatti is a club fighter.
                      Mitchell was hardly the best of his division.
                      The Hatton fight I will count as a very good result, one that would have stood regardless of referee/venue (I am British!), but Hatton was very tired by this point and far too reckless since the point deduction. A top fighter should never have walked into that check hook! Sucker punch!

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