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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Musings From an HBO Weekend…

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Bob Papa seems like a decent enough guy.

    And after years of hearing him call New York Giants football games on WFAN radio and seeing him adeptly handle football and boxing duties on television for NFL Network, ESPN and the self-proclaimed “Network of Champions,” I’d surely consider him among the best in the business at his chosen crafts.

    But that doesn’t change last Saturday night’s reality.

    His on-air performance as part of the “Boxing After Dark” show featuring Andre Berto’s gritty WBC welterweight title defense against Luis Collazo was, well… downright B.A.D.

    Ominously, the trouble started before the fighters hit the ring, with Papa continually referring to the Brooklyn-based Collazo as “Lou-eese,” while the proper pronunciation (“Lou-ee”) was correctly being used by analyst cohort Max Kellerman.

    But far more maddening to these ears were the repeated in-fight references to a first-round knockdown scored by Collazo and the impact it was sure to have on a razor-thin scorecard verdict.

    Only one problem… it never happened.

    Oh sure, it’s true Berto was driven awkwardly backward by a well-timed straight left hand, but his gloves never touched the canvas, the referee never intervened and there was never any trace of the standing 8-count that would have immediately followed such a sequence.

    Still, in spite of myriad replays and precise analysis from Kellerman and Lennox Lewis, Papa referred back to the phantom knockdown several more times – even stating at one point that it was Berto’s late-round rally in the first that kept the judges’ cards from reading 10-8 instead of 10-9. [details]
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    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Bob Papa seems like a decent enough guy.

    And after years of hearing him call New York Giants football games on WFAN radio and seeing him adeptly handle football and boxing duties on television for NFL Network, ESPN and the self-proclaimed “Network of Champions,” I’d surely consider him among the best in the business at his chosen crafts.

    But that doesn’t change last Saturday night’s reality.

    His on-air performance as part of the “Boxing After Dark” show featuring Andre Berto’s gritty WBC welterweight title defense against Luis Collazo was, well… downright B.A.D.

    Ominously, the trouble started before the fighters hit the ring, with Papa continually referring to the Brooklyn-based Collazo as “Lou-eese,” while the proper pronunciation (“Lou-ee”) was correctly being used by analyst cohort Max Kellerman.

    But far more maddening to these ears were the repeated in-fight references to a first-round knockdown scored by Collazo and the impact it was sure to have on a razor-thin scorecard verdict.

    Only one problem… it never happened.

    Oh sure, it’s true Berto was driven awkwardly backward by a well-timed straight left hand, but his gloves never touched the canvas, the referee never intervened and there was never any trace of the standing 8-count that would have immediately followed such a sequence.

    Still, in spite of myriad replays and precise analysis from Kellerman and Lennox Lewis, Papa referred back to the phantom knockdown several more times – even stating at one point that it was Berto’s late-round rally in the first that kept the judges’ cards from reading 10-8 instead of 10-9. [details]
    Really enjoyed the write up, especially the part about Bob Papa's inability to call anything correctly on Saturday.

    I'd ****can him, personally.

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    • Mike_Dee
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      #3
      you're wrong. Luis is pronounced "Lou-eese" in Spanish speaking countries, not "Lou-ee".

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mike_Dee
        you're wrong. Luis is pronounced "Lou-eese" in Spanish speaking countries, not "Lou-ee".
        Thats fine in Spanish speaking countries but the fight was in America...

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        • Mike_Dee
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          #5
          Originally posted by handler00
          Thats fine in Spanish speaking countries but the fight was in America...
          Note ******: Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican.

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          • Brother Naazim
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            #6
            I didn't care about Papa not pronouncing his name correctly, because I pronounce it "Lou-eese" also, and thought Kellerman was totally fucking it up.

            What bothered me was all his talk of the phantom knockdown. I was pulling for Collazo, but it just didn't happen. It was quite close, a judgment call really, because Berto would've fallen without the ropes holding him up.

            But Papa kept trying to steer the conversation back that way.

            I wish Merchant would've been on that cast, he would've corrected Papa with a verbal bitchslap that would've been one for the ages.

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            • michvlamar
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              #7
              and the movie is pronounced JUNO not Hunio with an H. Im pretty sure Bob is one of those guys that wants to prounounce everything different from everybody to show that he is well read and knowledgable. Too bad he comes off looking like a dumbass.

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              • michvlamar
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mike_Dee
                Note ******: Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican.
                exactly. I dont hear white people calling their mexican gardners Jesus with a J because they are in america. They pronounce it Hesus. Why not prounounce other spanish names correctly as well. Just because its in america doesnt mean we have to kill peoples names especially one as simple as Luis.

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                • Davros?
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                  #9
                  that knockdown thing was annoying why didnt someone tell him there was no knockdown.

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                  • Texanballer
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                    #10
                    You guys are right about Luis. Louie is for english names. For example, you wouldnt say Jose Louie Castillo, like Howard Lederman said a few times back in the day

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