Why doesnt the winner take the most money?

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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #11
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    That would make the most sense wouldn't it? I really don't get it myself. All fights should have the winner getting more of the pot imo. It's like why try so hard if you know you're walking out with the same amount of money win lose or draw? Obviously your rep is on the line, but sometimes money is a big factor that could mean the difference between a guy quitting on his stool or continuing to fight.
    It's simple, if you don't perform well that time then you can't demand as much money the next time.

    It's all about who brings in the fans. If a guy sells 3,000 tickets on his name alone, he commands a bigger purse than a good fighter who doesn't bring any fans in. If one guy is equally good as his opponent but TV is coming in because of the other guy, that also affects the purse split.

    Funnily enough, opponents make much more money to fight prospects than the prospects do. Largely because it's their ass out there, not the other way around.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Squabbles94806
      That's the business of boxing. They do get a bonus if they win, like the PPV proceeds.

      Fighters have to get paid win or lose so it'll get a tighter grip on the corruption. At least, that's the way i see it. Because one reason why Boxing is such a multi-million dollar enterprise is because of the betting.

      For example: If the winner gets the most money, say $6 mil if he wins, but the odds are for him, then he can just throw the fight and get paid twice. A nice piece of change if he loses, but an even bigger piece of change from the bookies.

      That's a fair deal. Win or lose, get paid. That's why fighters get in the game...to get paid. Lawyers get paid win or lose too.

      Same thing with a shmuck job. A *****y worker still gets paid if he's a *****y lazy ass worker.
      Well, I think it all works out eventually. A ****ty worker can get fired. A ****ty boxer can in most cases not get paid again for a big event. DLH would be the exception.
      Also, a great boxer can be paid ****ty, just like a great worker can be paid ****ty.

      I like the idea but I think it most of the time works itself out.
      DLH is always the exception to the rule.

      Since fighting is a dangerous sport and there are limited chances for paydays, most fighters want a guarantee of payment.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Sensational!
        It's simple, if you don't perform well that time then you can't demand as much money the next time.

        It's all about who brings in the fans. If a guy sells 3,000 tickets on his name alone, he commands a bigger purse than a good fighter who doesn't bring any fans in. If one guy is equally good as his opponent but TV is coming in because of the other guy, that also affects the purse split.

        Funnily enough, opponents make much more money to fight prospects than the prospects do. Largely because it's their ass out there, not the other way around.

        Yep, there are exceptions but most of the time it works itself out. Some opponents actualy make more than people think esp in Germany and the like.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sensational!
          It's simple, if you don't perform well that time then you can't demand as much money the next time.

          It's all about who brings in the fans. If a guy sells 3,000 tickets on his name alone, he commands a bigger purse than a good fighter who doesn't bring any fans in. If one guy is equally good as his opponent but TV is coming in because of the other guy, that also affects the purse split.

          Funnily enough, opponents make much more money to fight prospects than the prospects do. Largely because it's their ass out there, not the other way around.
          Looks like we see eye-to-eye.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jreckoning
            Yep, there are exceptions but most of the time it works itself out. Some opponents actualy make more than people think esp in Germany and the like.
            In Germany, you make the most money. That's why people go there even though you can't win a decision and get DQ'ed for hitting in the face.

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              #16
              What I've noticed is that the lesser quality fighters usually sell the most tickets. Guys like Powal Wolak and Wayne Johnsen, who really can't fight all that well, have become hot commodities among boxing promoters in NJ because they move tickets.

              It's probably because they spend most of their time selling tix and not enough time training.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Sensational!
                In Germany, you make the most money. That's why people go there even though you can't win a decision and get DQ'ed for hitting in the face.
                I particularly like when the house fighter is suddenly knocked down, and the ref helps him up or THE promoter rings the bell a minute before the round is supposed to be over.

                LOL.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  I particularly like when the house fighter is suddenly knocked down, and the ref helps him up or THE promoter rings the bell a minute before the round is supposed to be over.

                  LOL.
                  It seems to happen a lot over there for some reason.

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                    #19
                    i don't think journeymen working hard to feed their family should be punished by this rule.... or warriors who aren't quite on that top level but will give elite fighters hell in the process of losing

                    and 'questionable' decisions like Holyfield - Valuev would be even more significant.... the judging system might need to be revamped in correspondance (which might not be a bad thing)

                    it should be more commonly implemented in even fights, but it doesn't make sense in all circumstances

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