Pacquiao-Hatton: Both Sides Working To Save The Fight

[mistermartin]

dlh = $$$$$$$$$$$$

With that being the case. & Ricky Hatton already "proven" to have outsold Manny in Revenue Geneartion & Gate sales... Why does everyone bring up his p4p ranking as leverage in a financial negotiation.

The Hatto camp has already conceded to the venue location. As well he is putting his 140 lb title on the line in the fight. (a weight class where he is undefeated & pacman is fighting for the 1st time)

So how is it logical that Pacqiao is desrving of a bigger split.

He didn't desrve a bigger split against oscar b/c oscar brought more money to the table. Oscar's recent record is terrible. Ricky has only lost once in more than a decade to the #1 fighter in the world... The logic doesn't add up.

[Dave Rado]

With that being the case. & Ricky Hatton already "proven" to have outsold Manny in Revenue Geneartion & Gate sales... Why does everyone bring up his p4p ranking as leverage in a financial negotiation.

The Hatto camp has already conceded to the venue location. As well he is putting his 140 lb title on the line in the fight. (a weight class where he is undefeated & pacman is fighting for the 1st time)

So how is it logical that Pacqiao is desrving of a bigger split.

He didn't desrve a bigger split against oscar b/c oscar brought more money to the table. Oscar's recent record is terrible. Ricky has only lost once in more than a decade to the #1 fighter in the world... The logic doesn't add up.

This is business. Pac's negotiating for what he can get. Pac's marketability is far higher now than it was before he fought DLH, because beating DLH gave him huge mainstream exposure. He had to put up with the short end of the stick in that fight, now he wants his reward.

P4P is one of the things in his favour in the negotiations. Another is that he's got more alternative options available to him. Hatton has other things in his favour - more paying fans (although Pac also has a lot of paying fans, especially after beating DLH), plus the lineal Jnr Welter title.

At the end of the day whatever deal is struck would be fine, as long as a deal is struck. My gripe with Pac is not that he wants a better deal, it's the way he's mismanaged the negotiations, resulting in Hatton being messed about. This negotiation should have happened in December, not nearly a month after a deal had already been formally agreed. If the fight ended up falling through, I would blame Pac, but hopefully it will still be made.

[Savino]

With that being the case. & Ricky Hatton already "proven" to have outsold Manny in Revenue Geneartion & Gate sales... Why does everyone bring up his p4p ranking as leverage in a financial negotiation.

The Hatto camp has already conceded to the venue location. As well he is putting his 140 lb title on the line in the fight. (a weight class where he is undefeated & pacman is fighting for the 1st time)

So how is it logical that Pacqiao is desrving of a bigger split.

He didn't desrve a bigger split against oscar b/c oscar brought more money to the table. Oscar's recent record is terrible. Ricky has only lost once in more than a decade to the #1 fighter in the world... The logic doesn't add up.

well said.

[poontango]

First off, screw Pac for this bull****. Hatton brings people from across the pond. Pac doesnt. If I'm Hatton, I push for 60/40 in his favor. Second of all..."his charming wife Jinkee??" wtf is that ??? Stick to the article douche...nobody cares if you think his wife is charming.

[Johnny Rebel]

I love how so many posters that just joined think a 60/40 split in Pacs favor is fair... LOL, they probably work for Pac moronic lawyer who's going to cost him the biggest payday of his career.

I really hope Hatton stands firm at a 50% split. I really want him to tell Pac's team too PISS off and for Ricky to fight someone else. No way I'm buying the PPV to put money in that greedy Pacs pocket at this point. I'm just going to stream the fight and maybe watch the HBO replay if Pac is competitive.

[mistermartin]

This is business. Pac's negotiating for what he can get. Pac's marketability is far higher now than it was before he fought DLH, because beating DLH gave him huge mainstream exposure. He had to put up with the short end of the stick in that fight, now he wants his reward.

P4P is one of the things in his favour in the negotiations. Another is that he's got more alternative options available to him. Hatton has other things in his favour - more paying fans (although Pac also has a lot of paying fans, especially after beating DLH), plus the lineal Jnr Welter title.

At the end of the day whatever deal is struck would be fine, as long as a deal is struck. My gripe with Pac is not that he wants a better deal, it's the way he's mismanaged the negotiations, resulting in Hatton being messed about. This negotiation should have happened in December, not nearly a month after a deal had already been formally agreed. If the fight ended up falling through, I would blame Pac, but hopefully it will still be made.

U make good points.

The way i see it though, is that in terms of making a mega-fight, both fighters need one another. There are no other superstars for either fighter to consider. Floyd is an option for both men. but while he is officially retired his name shouldn't be mentioned.

As far as the other options. They would all be medium to big fights for either man. Ricky Hatton will fill a stadium & sell 500+ PPv i UK easy no matter who he fights. Manny will seel a few hundred thousand as well. But of all the options either man can face from Zab judah, JMM, nate campbell, Joan guzman, jr, witter, Bradley, holt, Soto, Cotto, juan Diaz, none of those guys besides Cotto could be a mega=fight. & manny would get smashed against cotto. In fact Ricky would get smashed also. The way I see it. They both need each other to put on the biggest event poss.

P4p rakning is a mythical status. How manny people have beaten ooscar, Bernard, Shane, Tito, (& they did it against a "Game DLH. not a shadow of the man) But just b/c any of them beat him doesn't mean they have the ability to earn & make purses like him. Floyd included. He's 10x's better than oscar but still can't carry a ppv on his own.

I know manny is standing up for himself but to bring fewer things to the table to risk & less money & still ask for a 20% adv. doesn't make a lick of sense. Floyd didn't make more money than ricky in their fight. Why should the Pacman.

I do think the fight will get made. If anything promoters & others will make concessions. But both men need one another to make a super-event there is no one else available or even capable.

[Dave Rado]

P4p rakning is a mythical status.

Pac has beaten lots of future hall-of-famers, Hatton has only beaten one, so it's not just the P4P status; and also, being recognised as P4P does add to a fighter's credibility, mythical or not.

I know manny is standing up for himself but to bring fewer things to the table to risk & less money & still ask for a 20% adv. doesn't make a lick of sense.

That's a negotiating ploy, I'm sure he'll accept less than that.

Floyd didn't make more money than ricky in their fight. Why should the Pacman.

Maybe Pac's a better negotiator than Floyd.

[mistermartin]

Pac has beaten lots of future hall-of-famers, Hatton has only beaten one, so it's not just the P4P status; and also, being recognised as P4P does add to a fighter's credibility, mythical or not.


That's a negotiating ploy, I'm sure he'll accept less than that.


Maybe Pac's a better negotiator than Floyd.

That's y I asked the original question. But in a financial negotiation....That fact seems to carry little weight. It gives him credibility regarding y he laays claim to that #1 p4p status. Ricky can't compete on that level. But interms of bringin fans. selling tickets & tv buys. Hatton was only second to De La Hoya. I think by him goig straight away w/ a 50/50 split of everything is a show of graciousness in respect for manny's achievements. They both are "people's champs" in their espective countries. So I feel like splitting the pot is a gent'man's way of showing respect to one another en route to recieving a pig pay day for both & an explosive fight.

Oscar disrespected Pac by flexing so heavy & demanding 70/30. It was a psychological ploy. I think Manny is being disrespectful in the Same way.Ricky hasn't tried to flex his muscles against Manny.

[Alibata]

whats beyond ridiculous is you insisting that the fight is 50/50 and ricky hatton is at the same level and of equal footing as the PACMAN (the most exciting and Pound for Pound fighter in the world).

Name me a fight other than PBF that Hatton is going to sell more PPV than Pacquiao fighting anybody...

[Fights]

Yes, I think a 55-45 will favor Team Pacquiao. We'll see.

Yes, this is confirmed. Pacquiao's counter-offer is this.