Brits overrated or Americans underrated British fighters which is it ?

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Brits overrated or Americans underrated British fighters which is it ?

    Do Brits overate or Americans underrate British fighters which is it ?

    Brits deffo overrate British fighters there is no question of that in my mind, but is it a reaction to American fans underrating British fighters that provoke that kind of reaction or does the lack of British Boxing success against American fighters play a part.
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    I like to think im quite unbiased but on the whole i think the Americans under rate alot of our guys and are unaware of alot to, its like unless ur a big name fighter or american then they aint even intrested in u at all.
    The Britts do over rate tho Look at Calzaghe! Some think he's the best ever!!!

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      Bit of both.

      In days of yore, in that golden era that never happened, you could tell who was a great fighter because they have proven track records, journeymen never got to the top (Witter) and prospects had to beat someone before they got a shot at a belt (Berto).

      I think the majority of arguements about the british fighters on NSB are Calzaghe/Hatton/Haye maybe khan.

      With Calzaghe you have Brits argueing that he is great but not all time great and Americans argueing he's not all time great just great. neither for some reason is will to admit the other is right...

      Hatton is 50% skill 40% heart and 10% fanbase. no one ever claimed he was ATG but to deny him top 10 P4P when he has beaten the P4P No3 and held multiple belts at two levels and is ring belt holder is a bit churish, especially when you have the likes of Dawson being pushed when his best results are against 40 year olds.

      Haye is not going to beat the Kitch' bro's unless he lands a bomb before they land a jab and no one not even the Brit rte khan as anything but a well skills KO waiting to happen.

      You have some nuthuggers but look at some of the idiots posting about pac-man at the moment and you'll agree they are far from the worst.

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        Depends on the fighter. I'm a Khan supporter, but they overrate him. Calzaghe on the underhand gets both overrated and underrated by fans. Whereas, a fighter like Lennox Lewis can still sometimes get underrated because he's British.

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        • mochoso91
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          Amricans usually underestimate any fighter, any country just because a big number of their population has never been out of USA.. so they don't know nothing outside and think themselves as the best of the best

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            #6
            Originally posted by mochoso91
            Amricans usually underestimate any fighter, any country just because a big number of their population has never been out of USA.. so they don't know nothing outside and think themselves as the best of the best
            Why would anyone think that when there is only one American in the P4P list?

            I am a fan of all fighters regardless of where they come,from don't generalize over 300,000,000 people with a blanket statement.

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            • BetterCallSaul
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              To be honest, if a tiny nation like ourselves can have just one world champion, I am happy. People might point to mexico: puerto rico, and argue how many champions they have for small, relatively poor nations, but people need to take into account how many competing sports we have. Boxing gyms are almost empty across the country, but we are still producing good fighters.

              With Hatton, Calzaghe, Froch, Haye, and Cook, I think we are all right.

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                #8
                Originally posted by timba1988
                To be honest, if a tiny nation like ourselves can have just one world champion, I am happy. People might point to mexico: puerto rico, and argue how many champions they have for small, relatively poor nations, but people need to take into account how many competing sports we have. Boxing gyms are almost empty across the country, but we are still producing good fighters.

                With Hatton, Calzaghe, Froch, Haye, and Cook, I think we are all right.

                Cook is an average fighter/champion.

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                • Spacey1991
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                  Goes both ways, I see a lot of people underrating Calzaghe that I think are from America... but on the other hand a lot of British people over hype our fighters... for example Amir Khan, I am a Brit and I see this... so it kinda goes both ways to be honest.

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                  • 'ENRY COOPER
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                    Originally posted by hammerhiem
                    Bit of both.

                    In days of yore, in that golden era that never happened, you could tell who was a great fighter because they have proven track records, journeymen never got to the top (Witter) and prospects had to beat someone before they got a shot at a belt (Berto).

                    I think the majority of arguements about the british fighters on NSB are Calzaghe/Hatton/Haye maybe khan.

                    With Calzaghe you have Brits argueing that he is great but not all time great and Americans argueing he's not all time great just great. neither for some reason is will to admit the other is right...

                    Hatton is 50% skill 40% heart and 10% fanbase. no one ever claimed he was ATG but to deny him top 10 P4P when he has beaten the P4P No3 and held multiple belts at two levels and is ring belt holder is a bit churish, especially when you have the likes of Dawson being pushed when his best results are against 40 year olds.

                    Haye is not going to beat the Kitch' bro's unless he lands a bomb before they land a jab and no one not even the Brit rte khan as anything but a well skills KO waiting to happen.

                    You have some nuthuggers but look at some of the idiots posting about pac-man at the moment and you'll agree they are far from the worst.
                    Originally posted by timba1988
                    To be honest, if a tiny nation like ourselves can have just one world champion, I am happy. People might point to mexico: puerto rico, and argue how many champions they have for small, relatively poor nations, but people need to take into account how many competing sports we have. Boxing gyms are almost empty across the country, but we are still producing good fighters.

                    With Hatton, Calzaghe, Froch, Haye, and Cook, I think we are all right.
                    What they said

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