Did Margarito Really Lose To Daniel Santos?

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  • Bhopreign
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    #11
    Originally posted by ..Calderon...
    Where are your anti-Mayweather threads then?
    I can post some vids of Calderon looking less than stellar if you want.

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    • THe TRiNiTY
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      I can post some vids of Calderon looking less than stellar if you want.
      First off all, my ACTUAL last name is Calderon, I don't name myself after fighters. Second of all, he is a personal favorite of mine, but the fact remains that he's undefeated and looks for the best fighters. Unlike FLOYD, who ducks people about as well as you ducked my question.

      Nice try, though. ;]

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      • Silencers
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        #13
        Santos had a good start and there were some close middle rounds that could have gone either way, the fight was definitely going Margarito's way at the time it was stopped though.

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        • ACHlLLES
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          #14
          Yeah. he did. And he probably was hurt in that fight since he felt like he lost himself. Boxers are humans like you and I, tough ones but they are feeling pain from taking those punches. Probably not while the fight is going on since the adrenaline is pumping, but afterwards it always hurts like a *****.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #15
            Originally posted by ..Calderon...
            First off all, my ACTUAL last name is Calderon, I don't name myself after fighters. Second of all, he is a personal favorite of mine, but the fact remains that he's undefeated and looks for the best fighters. Unlike FLOYD, who ducks people about as well as you ducked my question.

            Nice try, though. ;]
            I'll get back to you when I find a flaw in Floyd.

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            • Heru
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              #16
              Officially, he lost. IMO he was winning by a round at the time of the stoppage. It was better that Santos won though because it sent Margarito back down to 147 where we got a classic fight in Cotto-Margarito and some good fights against Williams, Clottey, Cintron, and Lujan.

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              • The Great Shark
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                #17
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                I'll get back to you when I find a flaw in Floyd.
                Sure, he may have no flaws in his technique, skills, form, etc, but why is he such a bore to watch fight in higher weight classes? Because he goes on the defensive, knowing that if he took a good amount of punches from heavier fighters, it could be over for him.

                It's like a graph, the higher he goes, the more defensive he gets, and the less offensive is seen from him, pot shotting his way to victory.

                His flaw could be being a little *****, leaving the sport just when it needed fighters like him to keep the fans coming.

                Now whats going to happen? He's running out of money, because of his spending habits. I can see PBF coming back, losing, and turning into the Tyson of this generation.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  I'll get back to you when I find a flaw in Floyd.
                  Aside from his ducking?

                  He looks less than himself when he's confronted with a solid, stiff jab.

                  People can steal rounds from him when they press him against the ropes, like De La Hoya and moreso Castillo did.

                  Then there is the issue with his hands which, though not his fault, still are flaws. A weak chin isn't someone's fault, but it's still a flaw.


                  So, other then those things as well as a few other things, he is flawless.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ..Calderon...
                    Aside from his ducking?

                    He looks less than himself when he's confronted with a solid, stiff jab.

                    People can steal rounds from him when they press him against the ropes, like De La Hoya and moreso Castillo did.

                    Then there is the issue with his hands which, though not his fault, still are flaws. A weak chin isn't someone's fault, but it's still a flaw.


                    So, other then those and a few others, he is flawless.
                    If you can still rounds by pressing him against the ropes, why hasnt he lost then? If its that easy he should have lost by now right?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      If you can still rounds by pressing him against the ropes, why hasnt he lost then? If its that easy he should have lost by now right?
                      Just because it's a flaw doesn't mean that it's easy to capitolize on.

                      You said flaw, I didn't say these were easy ones to take advantage of. I said they were flaws, period.

                      EVERY fighter has flaws. Now, keep in mind, I realize this video is ENTIRELY too biased. However, you will notice that a speedy, stiff jab will give him problems. And that quick hooks also give him problems. THe shorter the better, of course.



                      If Judah was even able to keep that up for half a fight, Mayweather would be ATLEAST looked at in a different light. I know he didn't and can't, but that's not the point I'm trying to prove.

                      He CAN be beat, it's not easy, but he has flaws. Simple as that.

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