Really Bad Logic 101: Bringing up ****** fight predictions....

[bsrizpac]

You were actually there?

Great fight... if Hopkins had beat Eastman like that I'd have enjoyed it. But instead I stayed up to 4am to watch him stopping a fight from breaking out and just nicking rounds.

Yeah I made a thread about it. I don't live too far from there but it was pretty entertaining stuff.

There were about 3-4 buses of Pavlik fans that came all the way from Ohio so they left pretty dejected.

All in all a great night, but not a great night for boxing (old guy beating up an up and coming rising star). Oh well.

Link to thread if you are bored:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217299

[bsrizpac]

Great thread.

I thought Castillo was going to show up with more than he did. I was wrong.

He couldn't even ****ing stand up because his balance was so bad. How many times did he go down in that fight without getting hit? The answer: way too many.

Good old Hatton immediately turned it into a wrestling match too.

But in either case, yeah you could see Castillo didn't want to be there. **** you could see it in the fight he had before the Hatton fight.

Come one, Castillo QUIT on a bodyshot? Don't tell me the guy was not shot ******s....

[Fox McCloud]

Good old Hatton immediately turned it into a wrestling match too.

But in either case, yeah you could see Castillo didn't want to be there. **** you could see it in the fight he had before the Hatton fight.

Come one, Castillo QUIT on a bodyshot? Don't tell me the guy was not shot ******s....

The other thing that I noticed... most body shot KOs have a delayed reaction from the guy where his entire face implodes on itself in pain. Castillo didn't really have that, he just did a clever spin move and plopped down.

Every other body shot KO has had the same reaction that Jhonny Gonzalez had when Penalosa crushed his side with one punch.

[bsrizpac]

The other thing that I noticed... most body shot KOs have a delayed reaction from the guy where his entire face implodes on itself in pain. Castillo didn't really have that, he just did a clever spin move and plopped down.

Every other body shot KO has had the same reaction that Jhonny Gonzalez had when Penalosa crushed his side with one punch.

I'm not saying he was not hurt. I'm just saying he didn't even try to get up. He was just like, **** this, there's my exit, peace.

But hey according to that ****tard Johnny Rebel he was in his prime cause PEOPLE PREDICTED HATTON TO LOSE.

Brain Damage is a sad sad thing.

[Fox McCloud]

I'm not saying he was not hurt. I'm just saying he didn't even try to get up. He was just like, **** this, there's my exit, peace.

But hey according to that ****tard Johnny Rebel he was in his prime cause PEOPLE PREDICTED HATTON TO LOSE.

Brain Damage is a sad sad thing.

Rebel is easily the worst poster on the site who isn't screwing around. I mean, obviously some people are just ****s to be ****s, and some are idiot alts who are just screwing with people, but he is 100% serious with all of his idiocy.

Castillo was prime because people thought he was. (Like you said, the sweetest logic ever)
Calzaghe is P4P #1 and Hatton is P4P #3 (Can't get dumber than that)

But hey, according to him, the same man who Ricky Hatton beat on that night could still have beaten Diego Corrales... makes sense, right?

[bsrizpac]

Rebel is easily the worst poster on the site who isn't screwing around. I mean, obviously some people are just ****s to be ****s, and some are idiot alts who are just screwing with people, but he is 100% serious with all of his idiocy.

Castillo was prime because people thought he was. (Like you said, the sweetest logic ever)
Calzaghe is P4P #1 and Hatton is P4P #3 (Can't get dumber than that)

But hey, according to him, the same man who Ricky Hatton beat on that night could still have beaten Diego Corrales... makes sense, right?

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[Roger Mellie]

You make some good points there, Pisspac. I still have to chuckle at the Fat Yankery of "get a clue", which is up there with "I could care less", but agree with the rest.

What really gets me is how many people will use betting odds as some form of justification of a win. ("They must have really got OWNED badly, because they were supposed to be the 3-1 underdog fore the fite took place. lamo.") Like bookmakers knowing jack **** about boxing and getting it totally wrong legitimises a win.

As an example of this I calculated an underrated (power/heart) and motivated Danny Williams's chance of beating an old, washed-up Tyson as around 2.5 to 1 against. When I saw the betting odds were 10-1 I put some cash down. Which doesn't really relate to my point exactly, but I just wanted to talk about Danny Williams.

The return of the mac!!!! Happy days are here again.

[S A M U R A I]

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[2501]

Okay, I'm getting tired of seeing this because it indicates that the majority of people on this site seem to have failed basic logic, debating and structure of argument in your schoolwork.

Example 1:

Ricky Hatton vs. JLC

Tons of people on this site hated Ricky Hatton. They want to see Ricky Hatton lose, for whatever reason. Could be because he's British, could be because his style sucks for them, could be because they don't like his spamming fanbase, could be cause they don't give him enough credit...whatever.

A fight prediction thread is made. The majority picks Castillo by beatdown. This despite the fact that Castillo failed to make weight HOW MANY times and struggled against some journeyman assclown before the Hatton fight. Anyone with a clue who saw that fight should and would have said that yes, Castillo was shot, in fact very shot (couldn't have been the first Corrales vs. Castillo fight that did it, could it?)

Fight occurs, Castillo shows up with the look of man who is beyond shot and done. He does not want to be there and quits at the first sign of adversity, something he's never done before.

Hatton wins.

Here's what you can say about this:

Hatton's detractors need to re-examine what they think about him. If they were that obtuse about his skills before maybe they are biased about him and will never give him enough credit. Above all they should admit they were wrong and man up about the incorrect prediction.

What you can NOT say about this (the point of this thread):

Oh well because a ton of ******s said Hatton would lose, JL Castillo was not shot and was still a good fighter.

Listen up ******s: just because the majority opinion says something DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. It just means the majority is ******ed, ignorant or biased.

This is like saying well "the majority of people after 9/11 wanted to go to war in Iraq because they were told there were WMD. So therefore there WERE WMD in Iraq".

Do you idiots even begin to realize how bad this type of logic is? I mean seriously. Think about that last statement I just wrote and just stop. Stop being fanboys and try to analyze thing a bit more objectively.

End rant.

According to this poll, the majority picked Hatton to win. Which one do you speak of?

Hatton 27 Votes Castillo 22 Votes

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1858

Hatton 69 Votes Castillo 44 Votes

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=4575

[letsgobrady]

Okay, I'm getting tired of seeing this because it indicates that the majority of people on this site seem to have failed basic logic, debating and structure of argument in your schoolwork.

Example 1:

Ricky Hatton vs. JLC

Tons of people on this site hated Ricky Hatton. They want to see Ricky Hatton lose, for whatever reason. Could be because he's British, could be because his style sucks for them, could be because they don't like his spamming fanbase, could be cause they don't give him enough credit...whatever.

A fight prediction thread is made. The majority picks Castillo by beatdown. This despite the fact that Castillo failed to make weight HOW MANY times and struggled against some journeyman assclown before the Hatton fight. Anyone with a clue who saw that fight should and would have said that yes, Castillo was shot, in fact very shot (couldn't have been the first Corrales vs. Castillo fight that did it, could it?)

Fight occurs, Castillo shows up with the look of man who is beyond shot and done. He does not want to be there and quits at the first sign of adversity, something he's never done before.

Hatton wins.

Here's what you can say about this:

Hatton's detractors need to re-examine what they think about him. If they were that obtuse about his skills before maybe they are biased about him and will never give him enough credit. Above all they should admit they were wrong and man up about the incorrect prediction.

What you can NOT say about this (the point of this thread):

Oh well because a ton of ******s said Hatton would lose, JL Castillo was not shot and was still a good fighter.

Listen up ******s: just because the majority opinion says something DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. It just means the majority is ******ed, ignorant or biased.

This is like saying well "the majority of people after 9/11 wanted to go to war in Iraq because they were told there were WMD. So therefore there WERE WMD in Iraq".

Do you idiots even begin to realize how bad this type of logic is? I mean seriously. Think about that last statement I just wrote and just stop. Stop being fanboys and try to analyze thing a bit more objectively.

End rant.

i wanted hatton to lose that fight but i did not pick castillo to win, hatton was the bigger man castillo couldn't make his weight anymore and both fighters like to fight inside the pocket but bein that hatton was the bigger man and his style of fighting is to bully and maul you so if you are the smaller man and you are goin to fight hatton's kind of fight you are most likely going to lose and thats exactly what happened