Why does everyone all suddenly think Pacman is a HUGE draw???

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  • gopi11
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    #61
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    What Hate?

    I'm picking Pacman to win.

    But heres REALITY.

    SFW don't KO LWW. Pacman couldn't stop JMM a guy fighting @130 for the third time in his career and yet you think he's stopping Hatton @140, that ****ing insane.

    Nobody Draws more than Hatton.

    Hatton Made £10,000,000 fighting Lazcano, a guy nobody in the UK had even heard of. Hatton got almost as many PPV fighting Paulie Malinaggi as Pacman did fighting ODLH and 70% of those where watching Oscar not Pacman.

    If Hatton fights someone known in the UK or who holds another 140 belt, he makes more.


    Where did you came about that Hatton made £10,000,000 fighting Lazcano? How did they cut up the loot? Or did Lazcano even got something out of the "so called" British PPV buys? And are you sure that these buys are there on the table for both fighters (Hatton & Pacman) to split up? I'm pretty sure Pacman keeps whatever dough that gets made there in the Philippines...

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    • Ishy Aytan
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      #62
      Originally posted by hammerhiem
      What Hate?

      I'm picking Pacman to win.

      But heres REALITY.

      SFW don't KO LWW. Pacman couldn't stop JMM a guy fighting @130 for the third time in his career and yet you think he's stopping Hatton @140, that ****ing insane.

      Nobody Draws more than Hatton.

      Hatton Made £10,000,000 fighting Lazcano, a guy nobody in the UK had even heard of. Hatton got almost as many PPV fighting Paulie Malinaggi as Pacman did fighting ODLH and 70% of those where watching Oscar not Pacman.

      If Hatton fights someone known in the UK or who holds another 140 belt, he makes more.
      Floyd Mayweather KO'd Gatti at Light Welter.

      Floyd Mayweather KO'd Brussles at Light Welter

      Oscar De La Hoya KO'd Chavez at Light Welter

      Just to show its happened before.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
        Floyd Mayweather KO'd Gatti at Light Welter.

        Floyd Mayweather KO'd Brussles at Light Welter

        Oscar De La Hoya KO'd Chavez at Light Welter

        Just to show its happened before.
        The dude got very low knowledge in boxing i'd rather sleep...

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        • Ishy Aytan
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          #64
          Originally posted by gopi11
          I've seen some of Hatton's huggers said he and he alone pocketed 70% of the sales, same with the Lazcano and Malignaggi fights. I knew there's something fishy there, they're trying to pad Ricky's resume'. I bet them that Pacman's fans will outnumber Ricky's fans come fight night, Ricky's fans are just more loud, vocal, visible and more organized. Their loudness could probably be that they can't hold their Ps and Qs while gulping away at every little nook and cranny in Vegas...


          He never too home 70% of the fights, he takes 40%... And thats split between the fighters. Malignaggi took home part of the 40% as well.

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            #65
            PBF at 140+ is 10x the fighter Pacman is, he is @147 what Pacman is @135 i.e fighting 1 division up from his natural best weight.

            So compairing PBF floyd fighting Hatton who's natural weight matches his own to Pacman fighting Hatton 2 weights higher than his natural weight is retatrded.

            Indication of Pacmans power at higher weights:- accumulation TKO vs Diaz @135 who got KTFO @140 by Holt who was a green prospect at the time and Holt did it quicker.

            Holt is not in Hatton league.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ryn0
              I certainly doubt Pacquiaos fans outnumber Rickys. Those fans worship him, I've never seen that atmosphere at a fight ever before.

              I mean against Castillo he drew 20,000 and what 15-20,000 against Mayweather, didn't hatton try to secure 30,000 tickets for his fans but the arena wouldn't let him against Mayweather.


              I've never seen Oscar as the underdog when we talk about the live crowd, not even against Mexico's favorite son, JCC Sr. He was the obvious villain against Pacman! Did you hear the oohs and ahhs whenever Oscar got tagged by Manny all throughout the night? And these are not all Filipino or Fil-Am crowd, they are of mixed colors. Name all the colors in the rainbow, they're there. That's a solid proof that Pacman has arrived, and mainstream at that...

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                #67
                Originally posted by hammerhiem
                PBF at 140+ is 10x the fighter Pacman is, he is @147 what Pacman is @135 i.e fighting 1 division up from his natural best weight.

                So compairing PBF floyd fighting Hatton who's natural weight matches his own to Pacman fighting Hatton 2 weights higher than his natural weight is retatrded.

                Indication of Pacmans power at higher weights:- accumulation TKO vs Diaz @135 who got KTFO @140 by Holt who was a green prospect at the time and Holt did it quicker.

                Holt is not in Hatton league.


                This sums up how deep your boxing knowledge is, the usual A is greater than B so C can't be lesser to A theory.

                I'm outta here...

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                  #68
                  So what your evidence that Pacman can KO Hatton then Gopi?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by hammerhiem
                    So what your evidence that Pacman can KO Hatton then Gopi?
                    here...

                    Pacquiao Could Be A Dangerous Puncher at 147=Brad Cone
                    Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:52 pm


                    Dela Hoya's team is now worried with the current findings of Alex Ariza during Manny's fight with David Diaz. Alex worked with Manny for the first time in Diaz fight, in charge in manny's conditioning and nutrition. And part of his job is to watch manny's power, speed and quickness all throughout the camp and fightnight.

                    Alex who have work with different fighters in the past, revealed that Manny is one in a million kind of fighter, he is very very strong fighter. Alex used to measure Manny's power by the start their camp in Diaz fight. At that time Manny is around 147 to 150 lbs. Manny's power could measures more that double of his weight, aroud 330lbs, enough to knock down or out a 225 lbs fighter. Alex was very very shocked about Manny's power at that time, with both hands with the same power.But with the camp progresses and Manny start to starved himself to lose some weights, Alex found out that Manny's power start to detertiorate. But not as significant after the weigh-in. At that time Pacquiao's camp is 100% confident during the fight, but not Alex, he is worried with Manny's power, he felt not effective with his position in Manny's camp. Because he noticed a day after the weigh-in his power could measure only to 139 lbs. only enough to knock out a 122lbs fighter, and his right is even worsed only recorded a power of 100lbs, not enough power to hurt, even a minimum weight fighter. This is shocking to Ariza because that's so much power lost by a fighter in just 6 weeks. According to him its normal that we lost a power in losing weight but almost 200lbs is not normal.

                    Manny is very affected in losing weight, And according to Ariza's analyis, Manny is more dangerous if doesnt lose weigth during training. He will fight like the iron mike in his prime if arizas analysis will be true in Dec. 6 vs. Dela hoya Because Manny need not to lose weight because 144 to 147 is his normal weight.

                    And this news alarmed so much to oscar, because they choose manny for two reasons, money and less risks. They want the fight to be competitive to look good in their rematch, They could do that if oscar can control the tempo of the fight. Oscar planned to hit Manny but not hurt totally, and also to be hit and sometimes rocks himself down to look the fight competitive and have a good point for the rematch.

                    But this time oscar very concerned regarding this, he already trained early and already planned to issue some press release of his excuses if he lost by knock out. like weight, 8 once gloves etc.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by hammerhiem
                      So what your evidence that Pacman can KO Hatton then Gopi?
                      Wait till May 2nd and you'll see your evidence.

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