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  • Silencers
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    #11
    Michaelczewski vs Jones would have been a good fight, it was both their faults for the fight not happening, Jones for refusing to go to Germany and Michalczewski for refusing to go to the states.

    And Michalczewski definitely was slipping by the time he fought Gonzalez, it showed in his previous fight when he fought Harmon, he was getting hit way more than he did in his prime.

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    • warp1432
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
      Yeah and Foreman had no need to fight Ali since he'd already smashed Frazier and Norton in two or three rounds, the only two guys to have beaten Ali at that point.

      Triangle. Theory. Doesn't. Work. In. Boxing.
      I know that, but I'm just saying, comparing natural ability and skills. You can't say for certain, but there are other reasons you could list on why Jones is better then him.

      I'm just saying, if there's a certain "point" where a person realizes that Jones is better, it's comparing those two fights not Gonzalez like Diego said

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      • Jim Jeffries
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        #13
        Originally posted by warp1432
        I know that, but I'm just saying, comparing natural ability and skills. You can't say for certain, but there are other reasons you could list on why Jones is better then him.

        I'm just saying, if there's a certain "point" where a person realizes that Jones is better, it's comparing those two fights not Gonzalez like Diego said
        I have no doubt that Roy was a better fighter. But DM would've certainly been better than a lot of guys Roy was fighting at the time and would've erased any doubt as to Roy being the most dominant fighter in the sport.

        I haven't seen a lot of footage on DM, but people are usually quick to lump him in with Ottke. Difference being DM faced better opposition and knocked almost everyone out.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #14
          DM is broke and Roy is rich

          DM spent all his money on hookers, good investment

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          • K-Nan
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            #15
            Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
            I have no doubt that Roy was a better fighter. But DM would've certainly been better than a lot of guys Roy was fighting at the time and would've erased any doubt as to Roy being the most dominant fighter in the sport.

            I haven't seen a lot of footage on DM, but people are usually quick to lump him in with Ottke. Difference being DM faced better opposition and knocked almost everyone out.
            If Roy is the champ and the best fighter in the world, why is the burden of proof on him? That makes absolutely no sense. Dariusz should have hopped his ass on a plane and fought Roy at the contracted terms.

            With what he was asking, he was either:

            A) Delusional (possible, since he seems to think Money is a ****ing tea leaf)

            or B) Negotiating his was out of getting his ass whooped.

            ****, take your pick. I wouldn't be surprised by either of those being true. I personally think it was B, though.

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #16
              DM wanted no part of Roy or he would have been in Madison Square Garden making it happen. The guy was a *****

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              • Scott9945
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                #17
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                i wouldn't say he was a bum.

                michalczewski has a decent resume.

                roy is to blame for that fight not happening as well. that's the only fight i think roy should have taken that he didn't.
                Roy Jones ducked his mandatory contender, Michael Nunn, and the WBC allowed him to get away with it. The evidence is indisputable.

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                • Silencers
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                  #18
                  The Nunn-Jones fight was close to happening to my knowledge but Jones announced he was going to up to heavyweight to fight Buster Douglas so he vacated the WBC title, Nunn then fought Rocchigiani in Germany for the vacant title which he lost, Jones then got talked out of his heavyweight fight with Douglas by his father and the WBC immediately stripped Rocchigiani of his title and gave it back to Jones. I think Jones would have fought Nunn had Nunn not lost to Rocchigiani.

                  Although Jones could have fought Nunn before announcing his decision to fight Douglas.

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                  • Scott9945
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    The Nunn-Jones fight was close to happening to my knowledge but Jones announced he was going to up to heavyweight to fight Buster Douglas so he vacated the WBC title, Nunn then fought Rocchigiani in Germany for the vacant title which he lost, Jones then got talked out of his heavyweight fight with Douglas by his father and the WBC immediately stripped Rocchigiani of his title and gave it back to Jones. I think Jones would have fought Nunn had Nunn not lost to Rocchigiani.

                    Although Jones could have fought Nunn before announcing his decision to fight Douglas.

                    I had always heard that Jones didn't want the Nunn fight because Nunn would have made too much money as the mandatory. Roy had a big ego about those type of things. For a guy who only fought one heavyweight, he sure talked about fighting a hell of a lot of them.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Scott9945
                      I had always heard that Jones didn't want the Nunn fight because Nunn would have made too much money as the mandatory. Roy had a big ego about those type of things. For a guy who only fought one heavyweight, he sure talked about fighting a hell of a lot of them.
                      That could have been a reason and Scully did say Jones didn't like the Nunn fight because of Nunn's style but I wouldn't have been surprised if the fight did happen if Nunn had beaten Rocchigiani.

                      Yes he does.

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