Just a quick word on Haye

[winac]

Surprisingly David Haye has been receiving some flack for wanting to fight the best and it is looking ever more likely that this wish is going to materialize. The argument being that Haye hasn't done enough in the Heavyweight division.

Haye unified the cruiserweight division, beating the number one man in the division in doing so. Despite the division being less equipped with talent than other divisions, he achieved pretty much all he could; yes he could of fought Cunningham but he has just suffered a loss.

With regards to this, I'd just like to mention fights in the past where the fighter moving up in weight has done enough in his own division to get a shot at the champion in the higher weight class without too many complaints. Fights that come to mind are Pacquiao vs Diaz, Jones vs Toney, Marquez vs Barrera, Marquez vs Casamayor, Calzaghe vs Hopkins and even Hopkins vs Tarver ( and he was coming off two losses).

I guess Haye's situation is pretty similar but he is getting a lot criticism for it....

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

good points, alot of that flack u speak of is coming from the klitschko bro nuthuggers. im a huge fan of both klitschko brothers, but im not nuthugger. i respect haye for wanting to step up and not fight a bunch of bums first.

i met haye he's a great guy. he has a great personality to be a great HW champion.

atleast haye is callin out the 2 best HW champions instead of going after valuev or some has been big names in the HW.

[WLAD_OWNS]

Haye partially unified the cruiserweight division by beating 2 weak title holders (washed up Mormeck and weak chinned Macca). He never fought the best cruiserweights.

Adamek, Cunningham, Alexeev, Jones >>>> Mormeck, Macca


I respect Haye for wanting to fight the best. I just don't think he deserves a title shot. He hasn't done jack **** in the heavyweight division.

[winac]

Just out of interest. Who do you think Haye would have to fight to gain a shot at Wlad or Vitali? and did you think that, after 4 years out of the game, Vitali should have been handed a title shot so candidly?

[hookoutofhell]

i really like haye i think alot of ppl do thats why they dont want to see him get sparked out too quickly. if he was to get KTFO then it would be a big blow to bxing and british boxing in particular, especially as david doesn't stike me as the type of guy who loves the sport and he could go into other things (MMA, UFC, retire, promoting etc).

not only that but the jump from LHW to CW and from CW and HW are different to the other weight categories. theres a bigger difference in weight and power from the opponents punches, which is something that fighters can't really compare to. i mean jow has a great chin but with his style if he was to get tagged by enzo macca he might well go down and not get back up. likewise if enzo macca was to get tagged by a HW he might, oh hang on....

[Rhaegar]

David Haye generates both the most revenue and the most excitement in a fight against either Klitschko than any other Heavyweight, that alone makes 'business' sense, right?

[kayjay]

I respect that Haye wants to fight the Klitschkos, but I dismiss his fans who think he deserves to leapfrog the more serious contenders. The fact of the matter is that many other HWs would likely beat him, and his hype is getting in the way of what the Klits are trying to accomplish. No matter, he'll be cast aside in dominant fashion by whichever brother he faces.

[kayjay]

David Haye generates both the most revenue and the most excitement in a fight against either Klitschko than any other Heavyweight, that alone makes 'business' sense, right?

The most revenue? Haye is a national, not an international, draw. Wlad would do more by fighting Valuev in Moscow and maybe Arreola in L.A.

[ragingvic]

He may not have done much in the division but the fact of the matter is that if anyone out there can beat either Klitcko brother its Haye, and nobody else. BTW besides the klitcko bros has anyone done anything at all in the HW division? I don't think he can beat either brother, but if im going to spend my money watching someone try, then I want it to be the haymaker.

[beecherhq]

To anyone who wants to see Wlad beat more deserving heavyweight fighters (can't think who they are bar povetkin) good luck to you, but i won't be watching and neither will a lot of other people. To say the Klit brothers have more meaningful and derserving fights out there is ridiculous. Wlads last two fights were garbage against Tony Thompson and HASIM RAHMAN ( he really deserved a title shot). If your against Haye in actual boxing terms, i say fair enough. But if your against haye for his ****iness and ambition you're against heavyweight boxing getting out of this slump full stop.