Why Won't People Respect Joe Calzaghe?

[andrewcuff]

Still waiting for threadstarter to provide link of an offer being made to Jones and Jones turning it down.

Thanks.

I'll have a look for you then. I take it that we agree Hopkins ducked him then, using money as an excuse for a way out of the fight?

[bsrizpac]

Thank you very much.

Objectivity and honesty was all I wanted from this discussion.

Yeah that's why you lied about Roy avoiding him and then posted a link to Warren saying he was GOING to meet with Roy's people THEN said that was a clear instance of ducking.

And the post you are responding to is not objective at all. Pure anti US nationalistic bull****. A common denominator of most Joe fans.

[bsrizpac]

I'll have a look for you then. I take it that we agree Hopkins ducked him then, using money as an excuse for a way out of the fight?

yawn. If you'd watched boxing back then you'd know why this is not true. Too bad Joe's fans are all bandwagon noob douches.

[bsrizpac]

lol wtf I hate Joe you moron, I hate everything about him and his little super mario lookalike father who needs a good ****in slap from someone. My point was being knocked out against the other fighters a few years ago was not as bad as being mentally and physically tortured for 12 rounds the way Joe done to him. When he got k.o'd a few years back he didn't suffer the pain of cutting his eye that badly etc.

LOL. so basically you felt bad his eye was cut and that a ***** douche like Joe was doing it to him.

Guess that means that Roy was even more shot than FOUR years earlier. Thanks for helping proving my point for me.

[IMDAZED]

I'll have a look for you then. I take it that we agree Hopkins ducked him then, using money as an excuse for a way out of the fight?

Of course not. But unlike you, I understand what happened back then. But don't try to throw me off. Please provide proof with regards to Jones. And if you can't, you better be prepared to recant all that bull**** you've been telling yourself.

I'll be here waiting.

[leppard365]

you know there comes a time where I think us yanks will stop denying the obvious and the truth and give fighters from Europe, especially UK, the credit they deserve. But some of these ******s from here are too hyped up by American patrionism and self respect to admit it. It's a shame.

[bsrizpac]

Of course not. But unlike you, I understand what happened back then. But don't try to throw me off. Please provide proof with regards to Jones. And if you can't, you better be prepared to recant all that bull**** you've been telling yourself.

I'll be here waiting.

Prepare to wait forever since it doesn't exist. Also prepare to NEVER get an apology from a joe fan. Not in their nature. Remember when parasite dirk was exposed tons of times...and every time he'd say "that doesn't prove anything, that link was a lie"----same deal here.

When you just start watching boxing and you hate the US and believe anything the local media feeds you of course you'll lie and make up **** to back up your points.

[hammerhiem]

His undefeated record is toilet paper in my book the way he shamelessly avoided Glen Johnson.

Glen Johnson was nothing special at SMW, 11 fights 5 wins, seriously had they fought, on form Glen would have lost.

Calzaghe was Injured, that hardly ducking anymore than Tony Thomson not fighting Calzaghe was ducking.

You can point to the close fight with Ottke but it was nothing on the level that the Reid or first Brewer fight was in terms of blatancy, Glen just didn't perform at 168 like he did at 175, he didn't beat anyone of any standard at 168.

[andrewcuff]

Haha Kessler unproven? A world class boxer who held the Ring, WBC and WBA belts? Yes, I can understand what you are saying, totally unproven! Lol

And I love the way wins over former world champions are totally overlooked.

As is a win over B-Hop, who is still an elite boxer at the age of 43.

[bsrizpac]

you know there comes a time where I think us yanks will stop denying the obvious and the truth and give fighters from Europe, especially UK, the credit they deserve. But some of these ******s from here are too hyped up by American patrionism and self respect to admit it. It's a shame.

Uh right because I sure hate Lennox Lewis, Jirov, the Klits, Woods and tons of other good fighters from those areas. Keep trying.