Juan Manuel Marquez Wants To Force a Pacquiao Trilogy

[goblin]

how is fighting 3 weights above your division and against a junior middleweight be considered chicken. he fought the best possible opposition and now is fighting Hatton. by the way pac will destroy all those fighters you mentioned.

uh huh thats why THOSE ARE THE NAMES most mentioned AT THE TIME when manny was doin **** all..for u too say that he fought THE BEST POSSIBLE oppostion is down right laughable..theres a REASON why ***** manny didnt even bother talkin about the names ive mentioned..fighting actual threats is something chicken manny doesnt want absolutely NO part of and his choosing of opposition simply PROVES that..

[goblin]

run manny run run run!! getting 2 asskickings from marquez is a good reason to become chicken manny..why? cause running from challenges is the ***** manny way!!..why fight raheem,valero,guzman and other young challenges when u can get credit for ramatching a past prime morales an older barrera and fight solis and a shot morales leftovers in diaz..manny and some of his jackfans are simply PRAYING that marquez becomes past prime evenmoreso or finally loses that way they have their excuse ready when avoiding marquez.
manny is *****/coward plain and simple...
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i usually dont entertain idiots like you but i will make an exception this time around only cos im bored.

so you give Raheem credit for beating a past prime Morales but not Pac. Raheem isn't even mentioned amonst elite fighters why the hell would Pac fight him?? you would probably be the only idiot that would pay for this fight!

Valero like we all know hasn't fought anyone of substance, if you rate him as a fighter you probably have Mundine up in your A-list as well.

Guzman??? WTF!?!?! are you serious??? i would rather see Pac fight valero than this ****! again, you would probably be the only idiot that would pay for this fight!

and by the way, you just named 3 fighters that are below Pacs weight division and are seriously out of his league! if you want Pac to be challenged at least suggest fighters within or above his division, you do know what division he is now dont you?? go do your homework and stop making yourself look ******. actually, dont stop, you're actually quite amusing!

THESE ARE THE NAMES thrown around at the time!!!! are u that ****en ******?? i LOVE how u throw excuse after excuse to JUSTIFY DODGING the above names mentioned u clown...AT THE TIME THESE ARE GUYS MANNY COULDVE FOUGHT...and its QUITE clear that have NOT been watchin boxing then...unless youre a dumb pacfan which ofcourse youre excused..dont ever make the mistake of responding unless u have something useful to say and NOT excuses, u pathetic excuse of a boxing fan....idiots..

[fcastro1]

Juan Manuel Marquez (49-4-1, 36 KOs) is not done chasing Manny Pacquiao just yet. The Mexican champion believes that a win over Juan Diaz on February 28 will lead to a trilogy bout with Pacquiao. The HBO televised bout against Diaz will take place in the Baby Bull's hometown of Houston, Texas at the Toyota Center. [details]

how does a win v diaz lead to a trilogy. he should beat campbell first and unify the division, while pac beats Hatton to be king of the Lw. only then should a fight happen.

[fcastro1]

Juan Manuel Marquez (49-4-1, 36 KOs) is not done chasing Manny Pacquiao just yet. The Mexican champion believes that a win over Juan Diaz on February 28 will lead to a trilogy bout with Pacquiao. The HBO televised bout against Diaz will take place in the Baby Bull's hometown of Houston, Texas at the Toyota Center. [details]

uh huh thats why THOSE ARE THE NAMES most mentioned AT THE TIME when manny was doin **** all..for u too say that he fought THE BEST POSSIBLE oppostion is down right laughable..theres a REASON why ***** manny didnt even bother talkin about the names ive mentioned..fighting actual threats is something chicken manny doesnt want absolutely NO part of and his choosing of opposition simply PROVES that..

Raheem Guzman and valero are not gonna ad anything to his legacy. Hatton, Mayweather and a possible marquez will. don't tell me these fighters aren't better than those you say pac is avoiding. come on pac is on another level to them he will beat them.

[nathanmania]

This fight could very well happen towards the end of this year.

ditto......

[nathanmania]

how does a win v diaz lead to a trilogy. he should beat campbell first and unify the division, while pac beats Hatton to be king of the Lw. only then should a fight happen.

**** it, Id just love your avatar mang.....

[rge_5]

THESE ARE THE NAMES thrown around at the time!!!! are u that ****en ******?? i LOVE how u throw excuse after excuse to JUSTIFY DODGING the above names mentioned u clown...AT THE TIME THESE ARE GUYS MANNY COULDVE FOUGHT...and its QUITE clear that have NOT been watchin boxing then...unless youre a dumb pacfan which ofcourse youre excused..dont ever make the mistake of responding unless u have something useful to say and NOT excuses, u pathetic excuse of a boxing fan....idiots..

man that is magic!! you can do all the name calling you want cos thats obviously all you can do....intelligence obviously doesnt run wich in that goblin family of yours.

so your still bitchin about some crappy fights that didnt get made back when MP was still at 126-130lb. build a bridge dude and get over it. i see you would get along well with Juanita marquez.....

you talk of posting something useful, how about you take your own advice.

so tell me, you say i threw around excuses, what excuses did i "throw around" exactly?

actually why don't you humour us all and give 1 good reason why he should have fought any of the fighters you named, please put your boxing knowledge on display. i dare you.....

keep it comin man please, i've forgotten how funny it is to play with little minds like yours, although this wont last long cos i also remember how easily i get bored of simpletons like yourself.

[schematic24]

Deserves it

Its common sense that Marquez moved up to get another opp at Pac beating Casamayor to earn the lineal lightweight title hoping to close Pac in on a possible rematch.[Quote]

Marquez himself has said that he makes no secret of chasing Pac.

Marq definitely deserves it. He took over the first fight after round 1. Knockdowns don't lose fights in and of themselves. Calzaghe got knocked down in 2 of his last 24 rounds. Whether or not Marquez gets the trilogy is a different matter but he definitely deserves it.

I'm a fan of both guys and I definitely feel entitled to watching a trilogy. And Marquez isn't the only one saying that he won the last fight. Many, maybe even most, analysts from all over the world including the Phillipines scored it for Marquez:

Associated Press:114-113 Marquez---
Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez---
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez---
Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez---
*********.com:115-112 Marquez---
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal:114-113 Marquez---
Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez---
Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez---
Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez---
DogHouseBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez---
Bruce McTavish, International judge:115-112 Marquez---
Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez---
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez---
William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez---
Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez---
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Ricardo Lois, Boxing Confidential:115-112 Marquez---
Jerry Roth, Official Judge:115-112 Marquez---
Boxing Digest:116-112 Marquez---
RPG, ESB poster:115-114 Marquez---
Andrew Walker, ESB:115-114 Marquez---
James Slater, ESB:Marquez---
Nonito Donaire, IBF Flyweight Champion:114-113 Marquez---
Bert Sugar:Marquez---
Max Kellerman and Bob Papa:Marquez in BOTH fights---Filipino sports analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all had Marquez winning.

[loui_ludwig]

[QUOTE=schematic24;4589999]Its common sense that Marquez moved up to get another opp at Pac beating Casamayor to earn the lineal lightweight title hoping to close Pac in on a possible rematch.

Marquez himself has said that he makes no secret of chasing Pac.

Marq definitely deserves it. He took over the first fight after round 1. Knockdowns don't lose fights in and of themselves. Calzaghe got knocked down in 2 of his last 24 rounds. Whether or not Marquez gets the trilogy is a different matter but he definitely deserves it.

I'm a fan of both guys and I definitely feel entitled to watching a trilogy. And Marquez isn't the only one saying that he won the last fight. Many, maybe even most, analysts from all over the world including the Phillipines scored it for Marquez:

Associated Press:114-113 Marquez---
Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez---
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez---
Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez---
*********.com:115-112 Marquez---
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal:114-113 Marquez---
Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez---
Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez---
Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez---
DogHouseBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez---
Bruce McTavish, International judge:115-112 Marquez---
Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez---
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez---
William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez---
Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez---
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Ricardo Lois, Boxing Confidential:115-112 Marquez---
Jerry Roth, Official Judge:115-112 Marquez---
Boxing Digest:116-112 Marquez---
RPG, ESB poster:115-114 Marquez---
Andrew Walker, ESB:115-114 Marquez---
James Slater, ESB:Marquez---
Nonito Donaire, IBF Flyweight Champion:114-113 Marquez---
Bert Sugar:Marquez---
Max Kellerman and Bob Papa:Marquez in BOTH fights---Filipino sports analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all had Marquez winning.

It was a closed fight that could have gone either way. None of those said it was a robbery. They even said that the judges decision saw something in the fight that lead to Pacquiao winning and must be respected and stand. Pacquiao, even with a closed decision, won fair and square.

[Bogler]

[QUOTE=schematic24;4589999]Its common sense that Marquez moved up to get another opp at Pac beating Casamayor to earn the lineal lightweight title hoping to close Pac in on a possible rematch.

Marquez himself has said that he makes no secret of chasing Pac.

Marq definitely deserves it. He took over the first fight after round 1. Knockdowns don't lose fights in and of themselves. Calzaghe got knocked down in 2 of his last 24 rounds. Whether or not Marquez gets the trilogy is a different matter but he definitely deserves it.

I'm a fan of both guys and I definitely feel entitled to watching a trilogy. And Marquez isn't the only one saying that he won the last fight. Many, maybe even most, analysts from all over the world including the Phillipines scored it for Marquez:

Associated Press:114-113 Marquez---
Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez---
Dan Rafael, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez---
Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez---
*********.com:115-112 Marquez---
Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal:114-113 Marquez---
Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez---
Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez---
Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez---
DogHouseBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez---
Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez---
Bruce McTavish, International judge:115-112 Marquez---
Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez---
Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez---
William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez---
Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez---
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez---
Ricardo Lois, Boxing Confidential:115-112 Marquez---
Jerry Roth, Official Judge:115-112 Marquez---
Boxing Digest:116-112 Marquez---
RPG, ESB poster:115-114 Marquez---
Andrew Walker, ESB:115-114 Marquez---
James Slater, ESB:Marquez---
Nonito Donaire, IBF Flyweight Champion:114-113 Marquez---
Bert Sugar:Marquez---
Max Kellerman and Bob Papa:Marquez in BOTH fights---Filipino sports analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all had Marquez winning.

thats obviously a biased compilation by whining jmm fans. pachuggers could obviously do the same and compile scorecards favoring pac, but they dont because they dont need to prove a point, pac won in a very close fight.

try to look for the press row scoring and you'll see its split down the middle 50-50.