The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

[fcastro1]

mayweather is a superb athlete. i think pac has the atributes to beat him. the problem with the people he faces is that he is a lot faster than them, but when he fought zab he gave him problems, and castillo's agressive style also posed problems, pac has the combination of both.

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
Steve Coleman

For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.

1. Mayweather's defense


Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.

All the while his opponent is punching.
Floyd is

• rolling,
• slipping,
• pivoting at the waist,
• feinting,
• bobbing and weaving,
• constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .

The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.


When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.

On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing.
2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:

1. the rhythm of offensive motion
2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.


3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.

Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.

What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.

4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:

First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.

Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.

Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.

5.Staying 'in the pocket',

When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.



6.The Science of Floyd's Offense

Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
With many other top fighters this is not the case.

It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.

In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.

Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.

7.The Science of Movement

Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.

This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.


Floyd Mayweather Has Mastered The ‘Sweet Science’

#8. Hand Picked Opponents

[Horus]

#8. Hand Picked Opponents

who hasnt pick opponents?
name one fighter in history that has not done that...

[RL_GMA]

who hasnt pick opponents?
name one fighter in history that has not done that...

IMHO, I'll believe he'll have a loss or 2 in his career. Not saying he's getting KTFO, but he'll catch an L

[Horus]

IMHO, I'll believe he'll have a loss or 2 in his career. Not saying he's getting KTFO, but he'll catch an L

IMHO...???
You didnt answer the question...

Name one fighter in history that hasnt hand pick opponents..
the answer to that question is that their isnt one.

this is boxing lets remember that.
Floyd could easily pulled a Julio Ceasar Chavez and fight every month fighting fighters with only 3 career pro fights when he has already fought 60+ fights...



You guys amaze me sometimes with some of the things you say..

all he handpick his opponents? <--- Like he is the first person in history to ever do it.


NEWSFLASH


3 STAGES OF BOXING FOR Mayweather and Other Great Fighters:




*To understand boxing (the sport), you got to understand the game baby!

There are 3 stages to any good boxer's career.

1) Fight the easy fights. Burgers, chumps, etc......for experience and to build your record. (no disrespect to burgers and chumps).

2) Fight other good prospects (undefeated, 1's and 2's, etc..) to separate yourself from the rest, make a name for yourself.

3) Enter Club Elite. Picking and choosing, fighting the fights that mean something to your legacy and your bank account!!

Now think of any Great Fighter and you tell me who didnt Follow this Process to Success...


Let's be real....Floyd Mayweather was deserving of the title P4P King.

We all should know why, let's not explain it. The haters can say what they want, but the resume proves it.

And right Now he is at Stage 4 of his Career ..

4.) All Time Great

[Horus]

Lol listen i have seen that fight at least 10 times.
Floyd won the 1st 6 rounds Clearly
so that means no matter what Floyd was going to get a draw or a WIN...if he didnt get knockout.
no matter matter what


Some judges score Workrate
Some judges Score effective and clean punches
Some judges score ring generalship

So that means you have three different people looking for possibly three different things when they are watching the fight.

So you can say Casitllo outwork floyd for the secondhalf of the fight.
but you cant say he landed the more clean and effective punches throughout the whole fight.
and you cant say he had better ring generalship throughout the whole fight.


Floyd clearly won the first 6 rounds....
so think about that, and tell me how could casitllo could have won the fight without knocking floyd down or knocking him out.?

and nobody to this day still hasnt prove to me that casitllo won that first fight when he lost the 1st 6 rounds

[VaBoriKua 2.0]

and nobody to this day still hasnt prove to me that casitllo won that first fight when he lost the 1st 6 rounds

thats just your assumptions that he won the first 6 ones clearly.

[cortdawg25]

I believe the judges had him winning the 1st five...and u can't sit their and tell me he didn't win 2 more rds after 5.

He beat castillo with a torn rotator cuff. If u watch the fight, roger says forget about the shoulder like 3 times and tells him we here now and they are constantly rubbing on te shoulder throughout the fight.

[RL_GMA]

IMHO...???
You didnt answer the question...

Name one fighter in history that hasnt hand pick opponents..
the answer to that question is that their isnt one.

this is boxing lets remember that.
Floyd could easily pulled a Julio Ceasar Chavez and fight every month fighting fighters with only 3 career pro fights when he has already fought 60+ fights...



You guys amaze me sometimes with some of the things you say..

all he handpick his opponents? <--- Like he is the first person in history to ever do it.


NEWSFLASH


3 STAGES OF BOXING FOR Mayweather and Other Great Fighters:




*To understand boxing (the sport), you got to understand the game baby!

There are 3 stages to any good boxer's career.

1) Fight the easy fights. Burgers, chumps, etc......for experience and to build your record. (no disrespect to burgers and chumps).

2) Fight other good prospects (undefeated, 1's and 2's, etc..) to separate yourself from the rest, make a name for yourself.

3) Enter Club Elite. Picking and choosing, fighting the fights that mean something to your legacy and your bank account!!

Now think of any Great Fighter and you tell me who didnt Follow this Process to Success...


Let's be real....Floyd Mayweather was deserving of the title P4P King.

We all should know why, let's not explain it. The haters can say what they want, but the resume proves it.

And right Now he is at Stage 4 of his Career ..

4.) All Time Great

LOL I don't need to go on Wikipedia and drop 57 facts on Floyd to just tell you I believe he'll lose once or twice in his career. No fighter is invincible.

And to answer your question, no I don't believe he's hand picked opponents more than just taking the biggest money fight he could get. People will always say he ducked this and that guy, but that's just the nature of the sport. But I also believe he's not done as a fighter and we're going to see more of him...which again brings me to my original statement that I believe he'll catch an L in his career one time or another.

[Horus]

I believe the judges had him winning the 1st five...and u can't sit their and tell me he didn't win 2 more rds after 5.

He beat castillo with a torn rotator cuff. If u watch the fight, roger says forget about the shoulder like 3 times and tells him we here now and they are constantly rubbing on te shoulder throughout the fight.

it is ridiculous...that these guys say castillo won the fight but they cant explain how when he lost the first 6 rounds...

there are only 12 rounds in boxing.
If you win the first 6 rounds and dont get knock down or knock out.

How can you lose the fight?
the worst floyd could have done was a draw.

and the last 6 rounds ....you cant tell me he(floyd) didnt win one of those close rounds...