Ricky Hatton Can Stop Manny Pacquiao, Says Floyd Sr.

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  • pacnation
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    #41
    Originally posted by vErDuGo
    "Hatton isn't even as good as Gatti."- says Floyd Sr.

    Nice VId verdugo. So it came out of his own trainer's mouth. Hatton is a C class fighter no better than Gatti lol. Nice

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    • mistermartin
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      #42
      Originally posted by mistermartin
      Are u reading my posts or just tpying b/c u get some name recognition out of this process. I said Manny will most likely score well w/ his straigght left. I also said that floyd hit Ricky ALl night. & it was cute for u to add quotes that make no point right along w/ anything else u've been saying. How bout u analyze how manny is gonna deal w/ having to punch moving backwards. How bout u analyze how manny is gonna deal w/ a consistent body attack. How bout u say something to tell me how manny is going to deal w/ someone wrstling & pushing & punching him. Tell me how manny plans to fight on the inside. How bout u mention something about how manny adjusts to riccky's movement. Manny won't be in their w/ someone too slow to catch him & he won't be in w/ someone who can't punch back. Ricky has been in the ring w/ the absolute best in the world. Manny can't say that. He's faced top fighter. But never the #1 fighter. HOw bout u give some analysis on those aspect of the fight rather than nuthuggin him based on the DLH win (which I admire & respect) but really analyze the strengths & weaknesses of both fighter & how they matchup against one another. Manny is more well rounded but Not nearly as complete as floyd. Wut stunned ricky wasn't the hooks & straight rights. He was completely shocked by floyd's strength & ability to fight in the pocket. Floyd neutralized his attack w/ that brilliant defense & punished ricky to the body & head As well as frustrate him by not allowing rick to get off inside. Manny doesn't possess that kind of ability. He wins off of offense & his explosiveness. Wut happens when a guy can slip his punches & then hop all over his ass like a fly to ****.... Adress any or all of those aspects of the fight..
      All u give are ur biased ass opinions based on nothing.

      And that last line was corny as hell...Save ur wack ass jokes for the comedy clubs....I'm not that guy.

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      • mistermartin
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        #43
        Originally posted by pacnation
        Nice VId verdugo. So it came out of his own trainer's mouth. Hatton is a C class fighter no better than Gatti lol. Nice
        First off Genious... Sr. Didn't call him a C fighter. Gatti is going to be a HOF. The interviewer said jr. called him a "c" class fighter. sr. Said Don't pay attention to wut floyd said. He said that's wut fighters do... "part of the game" So u posting this dumb ass video makes no sense. "that all he doing" "fighters gona do that to get in ur head" ...
        Wuts the point to posting this einstein?? "part of the game" is wut he said. & wut else would he say but something to support & pump up his son's image. It's all propaganda...Floyd jr. Knows his career after lightweight has been s.h.i.t. He's fought no one. no risks. no true welters. So stop it bro. U just wasted some energy....u can't even get that part of ur life back. stop it.

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        • trainhard_187
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          #44
          Hatton leaves himself to open and the wrestling crap aint going to fly in this fight. Again Pac is too damn fast for Hatton and I am not making this judgement just after the Delahoya fight. Theirs a reason why a number of Pacs opponents have quit, been on the floor, or cut up. Hatton will face speed that he hasnt seen. Hatton will tire in the mid rounds and Pac will capitalize on it. Dont get your panties all up in a bunch really, Hatton will live to see another day after the fight but during, he's going to look like ground beef.

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          • trainhard_187
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            #45
            Originally posted by mistermartin
            All u give are ur biased ass opinions based on nothing.

            And that last line was corny as hell...Save ur wack ass jokes for the comedy clubs....I'm not that guy.
            Facts: Speed Kills and Pac has it
            Pac carries his weight 140 would be nothing
            Hatton leaves himself open.
            Hatton does not condition himself between fights.
            Hatton is known for cutting easily
            Pacs head movement and footwork has improved
            Pac hits you from different angles
            Paulie had NO power to slow Hatton, Pac does

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            • mistermartin
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              #46
              Originally posted by trainhard_187
              Hatton leaves himself to open and the wrestling crap aint going to fly in this fight. Again Pac is too damn fast for Hatton and I am not making this judgement just after the Delahoya fight. Theirs a reason why a number of Pacs opponents have quit, been on the floor, or cut up. Hatton will face speed that he hasnt seen. Hatton will tire in the mid rounds and Pac will capitalize on it. Dont get your panties all up in a bunch really, Hatton will live to see another day after the fight but during, he's going to look like ground beef.
              I'm good bro... But just like I said. I rarely come across intellegent posts. So Ur telling me that the speed, accuracy, & timing Ricky saw against floyd is going to pale in comparison to wut he's going to face against manny?

              Also just like i said against paulie ricky didn't initiate a clinch once. But he did push him backwards. & ur telling me that Ricky hatton can push Floyd backwards aall nite & kostya tzu backwards all nite. But will not be able to do that to manny b/c of this mind altering speed Pac posesses.... Am i gettng that right?

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              • mistermartin
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                #47
                Originally posted by trainhard_187
                Facts: Speed Kills and Pac has it
                Pac carries his weight 140 would be nothing
                Hatton leaves himself open.
                Hatton does not condition himself between fights.
                Hatton is known for cutting easily
                Pacs head movement and footwork has improved
                Pac hits you from different angles
                Paulie had NO power to slow Hatton, Pac does
                When has ricky ever come into a fight unconditioned?
                When was the last time rick's face was cut?
                When was the last time his fight was stopped on cuts?
                How long did it take for Floyd to Stop Hatton?
                If Hatton can take Floyd's hardest punch & not fold & TZu's recking ball rt hand & make him forfeit his title on his stool. why wwouldn't he be able to take a former 106 lb guy's shots? (that's like the weight of a jockey)

                Hatton has been in there w/ welter's and hard punchers no one has ever detered him from coming forward. Why would pacman be that guy. Are u forgetting that ricky has a 70% ko ratio?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                  I agree with that, but Mannys chin is in the same league as malignaggies
                  untill its been tested at this weight no its not

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                  • trainhard_187
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mistermartin
                    When has ricky ever come into a fight unconditioned?
                    When was the last time rick's face was cut?
                    When was the last time his fight was stopped on cuts?
                    How long did it take for Floyd to Stop Hatton?
                    If Hatton can take Floyd's hardest punch & not fold & TZu's recking ball rt hand & make him forfeit his title on his stool. why wwouldn't he be able to take a former 106 lb guy's shots? (that's like the weight of a jockey)

                    Hatton has been in there w/ welter's and hard punchers no one has ever detered him from coming forward. Why would pacman be that guy. Are u forgetting that ricky has a 70% ko ratio?

                    Floyd KOed Hatton in 10, one check hook prior to numerous pots shots and rights.
                    Hatton was cut in the Floyd fight from a pot shot, what more with Pacs left. Hatton has been known to cut TRUE FACT

                    Why are you using the 106lb analysis, Pac was in middle school at that time. As we get older we get stronger, why are you assuming Pac is the same 106lb dude from WAY BACK then. Your starting to sound like those Delahoya fanatics who said the same thing.

                    Last time I looked Hatton fought Floyd at Welter and Lost, what top Weters are you talking about?

                    If it makes you feel better, yes Hatton has a chance just like the rest of them did, but speed and conditioning will be key and Pac beats Hatton in those departments.

                    Again Hatton looked good against Paulie. Paulie and Pac are two different fighters, once Hatton feels Pacs punches and sees the speed, its going to be a loooong night.
                    Last edited by trainhard_187; 01-05-2009, 05:06 AM.

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                    • mistermartin
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by trainhard_187
                      Floyd KOed Hatton in 10, one check hook prior to numerous pots shots and rights.
                      Hatton was cut in the Floyd fight from a pot shot, what more with Pacs left. Hatton has been known to cut TRUE FACT

                      Why are you using the 106lb analysis, Pac was in middle school at that time. As we get older we get stronger, why are you assuming Pac is the same 106lb dude from WAY BACK then. Your starting to sound like those Delahoya fanatics who said the same thing.

                      Last time I looked Hatton fought Floyd at Welter and Lost, what top Weters are you talking about?

                      If it makes you feel better, yes Hatton has a chance just like the rest of them did, but speed and conditioning will be key and Pac beats Hatton in those departments.

                      Again Hatton looked good against Paulie. Paulie and Pac are two different fighters, once Hatton feels Pacs punches and sees the speed, its going to be a loooong night.
                      I can tell this debate will go nowhere. I'm over it already. DLH & RH are 2 diff fighters at this stage of their careers. U guys have become overly impressed w/ a guy who was in a fight w/ a punching bag. Manny is a great fighter. But u have given no true analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of these 2 men. I pointed to the fact that manny began @ 106 to illustrate the fact that Ricky does not have tpo "carry" power up to his weight. which is a question mark @ every div pac fights. DLH was a joke & showed us nothing. Diaz was an impressive win in his first at 35. But manny lost to JMM in 08 & was picked off all night long. So these stories of invincibility from manny are far fetched. Manny is awsomely talented. But got beaten against JMM. Diaz was a slug. None of those fights help prepare him to face ricky & wut he brings. none of them. Like I said befor ricky is relentless w/ pressure. Always in tremendous shape. Never stops punching. & goes hard to the body. & for the record, rick fought 3 fights @ welter & took one title there as well from urango. So there. Manny didn't fight a true welter. He fought a deflated ballon. I like manny alot. But I am predicting him to get dominated in this contest. I've given a analysis on how I see it. Unless someone can refute my claims or answer the quesstions I've asked...that's wut I say about the fight. But u've said nothing on the subject but "speed kills" wtf does that mean. & I should probably stop going back & forth w/ u about this. I'm looking @ wut u wrote realizing that I'll never get that part of my life back....that time I spent is gone. damn.

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