Joe Calzaghe talks on fighting Prime Jones, fighting the best

[Pullcounter]

I'm pretty much 50/50 on the outcome of such a fantasy matchup. Anyone who thinks it's an easy fight for either fighter isn't thinking right.

c'mon now, a shot rjj went 12 rounds w/ calz and put calz on his ass.... A SHOT RJJ did that, imagine what a prime RJJ would do.

[Chr0nic]

c'mon now, a shot rjj went 12 rounds w/ calz and put calz on his ass.... A SHOT RJJ did that, imagine what a prime RJJ would do.

not to mention roy jones broke ribs, he knocked peeps out with body shots
and he actually KO's people(not tko's)
calzaghe has 2 actual ko's in his resume
so if you get put down by a prime roy jones, your done

[krispy kreme]

Calzaghe a was nobody during the Prime Jones era or even during the Prime Hopkins era. Just another undefeated guy who wanted a shot.

[RichCCFC]

Can you imagine this Calzaghe (with power and better chin)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFfqtEifCQ

vs Prime Roy Jones?

Wow, shame it never happened.

[S A M U R A I]

c'mon now, a shot rjj went 12 rounds w/ calz and put calz on his ass.... A SHOT RJJ did that, imagine what a prime RJJ would do.

A younger Calzaghe would have knocked out the Roy you saw recently. Roy went 12 because Calzaghe's hands are smashed up. That is the only reason he went the distance. Besides, in my opinion it should have been a stoppage somewhere around round 9. The Lacy fight should have also been stopped, it's pretty disgraceful that Lacy's corner didn't pull him out.

You are seeing it as how Calzaghe is NOW and how Roy was THEN. You gotta realize how much Calzaghe has lost in terms of power since he became plagued by injuries. The punch that cut Jones also broke his hand. They are brittle as **** dude.



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[RichCCFC]

No way would old Roy go 12 rounds with this Calzaghe

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMzCaf4nOs

[S A M U R A I]

I'd say a 1997 Calzaghe gives him a hell of a fight, the one who fought Eubank.





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[Chr0nic]

No way would old Roy go 12 rounds with this Calzaghe

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMzCaf4nOs

denail, roy jones does'nt rush in open like that, mitchel was willing to take the punches thinking he could end it right there
and then all of a sudden his head was sent flying into the back row

[Pullcounter]

A younger Calzaghe would have knocked out the Roy you saw recently. Roy went 12 because Calzaghe's hands are smashed up. That is the only reason he went the distance. Besides, in my opinion it should have been a stoppage somewhere around round 9. The Lacy fight should have also been stopped, it's pretty disgraceful that Lacy's corner didn't pull him out.

You are seeing it as how Calzaghe is NOW and how Roy was THEN. You gotta realize how much Calzaghe has lost in terms of power since he became plagued by injuries. The punch that cut Jones also broke his hand. They are brittle as **** dude.

its not possible to know how good calz was back then.

we know that RJJ was a beast back then.

rewind the clock 5+ years and RJJ whups calz's ass.

[Chase8400]

I wouldn't say Jones ducked Calzaghe, but I wouldn't say he was jumping at the chance to fight him either. Neither fighter ducked the other. What Calzaghe said was he'd want a huge check for fighting Jones. Who can blame him? It is a risky fight because Roy was excellent, but it works both ways. After all, Roy has said the same thing, according to Warren; that they had fights with Roy fall through because he always priced himself out. Roy did the same thing with Michalczewski. Some would say he ducked Michalczewski. Hopkins priced himself out of the Calzaghe fight.

Respectively, Jones was always the draw during this time period. DM was responsible for making the right moves for the fight to happen and the same goes for Calzaghe. No way, no how should Roy Jones have had to go fight either one of these fighters in their back yard. It was their responsibility and they didn't take the neccesary steps. Jones faced belt holders and mandatories that were willing to come face him on his terms, which is what should have happened. He was the draw.

I don't like all the talk of X-fighter ducking Y-fighter. It's never black & white, there are multiple factors to consider; Jones could fight easier fights in America for good money. Jones was in a different weight class, having moved up to light heavyweight in 1996 -- a whole year before Calzaghe became super middleweight champion by beating Eubank in 1997. Hopkins was a middleweight. He skipped super middleweight completely in 2006 and moved up two divisions.

I don't like the ducking reference either. It all just comes down to economics at some point. I don't think fighters are scared to get hurt. But they may be scared to lose an undefeated record that may help them prolong their earning status. We never know sometimes.

So anyway... that's where you and I differ. Any talk of Jones beating Calzaghe prime for prime is merely speculation. I don't believe Roy would do as well against younger Calzaghe as some people believe. Joe would have always been a hard fight for Roy; he hit hard, fought hard for 3 minutes of every round, threw just as many punches as he does now, and was almost impossible to knock down. When he did get knocked down -- first time was in 2003 -- he got off the floor and won the fight in the same round by TKO. Calzaghe's heart and determination is unreal, and this is often what wins him fights: he will not acknowledge the possibility of losing.

While I agree that Joes determination, resolve and heart cannot be questioned, I think that he is just not talented enough to beat a prime Roy Jones. Yes, he throws allot of punches and he has decent pop, but beating prime Jones was as close to impossible as there was. Roy didn't need workrate to beat guys that usually were able to wear guys down and beat them. He was super elusive and landed from all angles with allot more power than Calzaghe. That generally kept his opponents honest when engaging. If Joe was stubborn and came in to throw anyways, he would have gotten stopped. Old Jones knocks Joe down while being on the ropes all night taking punches and prime Jones TKO's Joe while remaining elusive in the middle of the ring. That's the difference.

I'm pretty much 50/50 on the outcome of such a fantasy matchup. Anyone who thinks it's an easy fight for either fighter isn't thinking right.

I don't think it's an easy fight for Jones, and Joe could show some good things , I just cannot picture him being successful. Roy was too fast, too accurate and too fleet footed back then.

I guess we will just have to agree to dissagree on this one since the fight happened in '08 instead of '01.