Charlie Zelenoff- rate his speed and power

[ACHlLLES]

I want all to know... Im rating Zelenoff as compared to other Welterweights making a debut... not the top guys who've been fighting for a decade.

Zelenoff lost to the great Andrew Hartley, ricky hatton ducked Hartley to fight Malignaggi.

[BOLLOCKS]

Your power and speed is dime.

[Welter_Skelter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggVTkwivYoI

ok i know i shouldnt be dropping my hands alot and my conditioning ye that was 3 weeks ago i am rusty i dont train as much but let alone my speed and my right hand power. come On guys lets be a little honest here?????

I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone...

[daggum]

I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone...

he tried to hit andrew "kid thunder" hartley but he is a defensive wizard.

[squealpiggy]

I wouldn't know.. I have never seen you actually hit anyone...

He caught Andrew Hartley with a painful looking ding right on the end of the knuckle using his chin. Then he pretended to quit to spare poor Kid Thunder from any further hand damage.

[MELLY-MEL...]

defense, defense, and defense chuck. gotta keep ur damn hands up son!

[Mojita]

"you didn't beat me andrew, i beat myself"

[ACHlLLES]

"you didn't beat me andrew, i beat myself"

That kid in the video sounds like he is crying, that is not charlie. Charlie doesn't cry

[squealpiggy]

I'm torn between hoping that he loses to the next no-hoper he faces so that he doesn't end up in the ring with a real fighter and get seriously hurt and... well, hoping that he beats the next no-hoper so that he ends up in the ring with a real fighter and gets seriously hurt.

[Undefeated]

Zelenoff is the next........

Eric Crumble.

Dead serious.

This guy has no hope. He looks the same. That loss changed him. No matter how young he is. This dude has a disability, and its the lack of putting effort into putting his hands up. You aint Gamboa ni99a. Spar. Stop hitting mitts... They don't hit back. Man up *****!