If Ivan Calderon Beat A Super Featherweight Champ, Would You Be Impressed?

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  • Bhopreign
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    #11
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    For the ******ed people out there like me, you could just say it, so I can tell you what is wrong with your analogy. Nothing is coming to mind.
    What is wrong with the analogy.

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      See this proves something about your character, does it not? Surely you would adore Calderon, but not Floyd, go figure.
      No. It only proves that you are a idiot trying to compare Calderon to Floyd, weight wise, to make folyd ***** ass look better, and thats ridiculous!!!!!!!!!

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        #13
        They'll pick and choose who they give credit to bhopreign, Floyds accomplishments stack up well against some of the greatest of all time

        6 titles in 5 weight divisions, while going undefeated

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        • Bhopreign
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          #14
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
          No. It only proves that you are a idiot trying to compare Calderon to Floyd, weight wise, to make folyd ***** ass look better, and thats ridiculous!!!!!!!!!
          Huh? again one man starts at 130 moved up to 154 and beat a champ, not to mention Floyd was fighting at Calderon's weight as an amateur. You took what I said wrong, I wasnt trying to say anything bad about you, Im just trying to understand why people arnt impartial.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            What is wrong with the analogy.
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Huh? again one man starts at 130 moved up to 154 and beat a champ, not to mention Floyd was fighting at Calderon's weight as an amateur. You took what I said wrong, I wasnt trying to say anything bad about you, Im just trying to understand why people arnt impartial.
            154 is the 5th weight class from 130.

            130 is the 8th weight class from 105.

            It's not weight added, it's % of weight added.

            Amateurs are different than pros.

            Mayweather was not undefeated in the ams like Calderon is in the pros.

            Calderon's opposition, winning pro world titles > Mayweather's am opposition.

            Just a few things that are not correct with the analogy.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Huh? again one man starts at 130 moved up to 154 and beat a champ, not to mention Floyd was fighting at Calderon's weight as an amateur. You took what I said wrong, I wasnt trying to say anything bad about you, Im just trying to understand why people arnt impartial.
              I get, that is hard to move from 130 and with at 154, but DLH did it and Duran fought the best at MW and he started at Bantamweight. Still quite of acommplishment form Floyds part. But you cant compare a natural 105 pounder to natural JWW. Calderon is 5 feet tall dude, Imaging how Calderon will look side to side with a 130 pounder, if you get what Im saying!!!!!!

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              • Bhopreign
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                #17
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                154 is the 5th weight class from 130.

                130 is the 8th weight class from 105.

                It's not weight added, it's % of weight added.

                Amateurs are different than pros.

                Mayweather was not undefeated in the ams like Calderon is in the pros.

                Calderon's opposition, winning pro world titles > Mayweather's am opposition.

                Just a few things that are not correct with the analogy.
                The weight percentage is not much, I calculated it. I know amateurs is different, weight is weight, the only argument that can be made is that Floyd was a huge superfeatherweight to begin with. Saying 5th and 8th weight class doesnt matter, it's the weight in between that does, you could easily split 130 to 154 eight different times also, but its not like that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  The weight percentage is not much, I calculated it. I know amateurs is different, weight is weight, the only argument that can be made is that Floyd was a huge superfeatherweight to begin with.
                  Adding 25 pounds to a 105 frame is insane compared to adding 24 pounds to 130.

                  Don't forget height... Calderon is just tiny.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    Adding 25 pounds to a 105 frame is insane compared to adding 24 pounds to 130.

                    Don't forget height... Calderon is just tiny.
                    How so? Ive seen many 5 feet tall people weighing 130 and more. Nothing insane about that.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      How so? Ive seen many 5 feet tall people weighing 130 and more. Nothing insane about that.
                      ANd they were in shape, right??????

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