MMA Critics Need To Show Some Respect...

[MOREBASS]

Anderson Silva, who is the best fighter on the planet P4P, is a Muay Thai fighter.


And I said that most of these guys have been training in martial arts since childhood. Not MMA.

MMA is relatively new as a sport.

The examples you used in your quote are those you handpicked to backup your statements.

The point of my post was to point out to the guy that there are in fact bona fide martial artists in MMA, and have been since its inception.

[pugilistfan]

Anderson Silva, who is the best fighter on the planet P4P, is a Muay Thai fighter.


And I said that most of these guys have been training in martial arts since childhood. Not MMA.

MMA is relatively new as a sport.

The examples you used in your quote are those you handpicked to backup your statements.

The point of my post was to point out to the guy that there are in fact bona fide martial artists in MMA, and have been since its inception.

Anderson Silva who I think is the best MMA fighter in the world has been training in boxing extensively over the past 3 years and has talked about having a boxing career after his MMA career.

And before training in boxing, Silva lost 4 fights, with improved boxing Silva hasnt lost in the UFC.

Even other MMA fighters say Silva is not solely a MT fighter, he mixes in boxing, alot of boxing.

And Penn is ALL boxing. Same with Fedor.

[pugilistfan]

Anderson Silva, who is the best fighter on the planet P4P, is a Muay Thai fighter.


And I said that most of these guys have been training in martial arts since childhood. Not MMA.

MMA is relatively new as a sport.

The examples you used in your quote are those you handpicked to backup your statements.

The point of my post was to point out to the guy that there are in fact bona fide martial artists in MMA, and have been since its inception.

Thats definitely debatable considering the Tank Abbots of the world was a fixture of the MMA scene in the early years.

MMA has obviously improved its talent pool but to sit here and tell me that all the fighters we see today are lifetime martial artists is BS. Patrick Cote fought for a title and his strength is BOXING and yet in pro boxing hes 0-4.

Cote didnt even start MMA/boxing until he was in the Army at 18-19 years of age.

Marcus Davis, Chris Lytle all were former boxers, MEDIOCRE boxers and they are fighting and succeeding at the highest level of MMA.

Frank Mir didnt start BJJ until he was 22 and hes the UFC champion. Franklin was a high school math teacher with literally no background of any martial art. Sean Sherk was a high school wrestler who quit MMA for 2-3 years and worked in construction.

[aether]

Alright man you love MMA. I'm a fan of both as are most people that post here.

There are very few who really dislike MMA. They are not to be taken seriously.

All they can say is MMA is gay.

MMA ain't gay. its a flawed combat sport that needs a few years to be considered a respectable sport.

[MOREBASS]

Thats definitely debatable considering the Tank Abbots of the world was a fixture of the MMA scene in the early years.

MMA has obviously improved its talent pool but to sit here and tell me that all the fighters we see today are lifetime martial artists is BS. Patrick Cote fought for a title and his strength is BOXING and yet in pro boxing hes 0-4.

Cote didnt even start MMA/boxing until he was in the Army at 18-19 years of age.

Marcus Davis, Chris Lytle all were former boxers, MEDIOCRE boxers and they are fighting and succeeding at the highest level of MMA.

Frank Mir didnt start BJJ until he was 22 and hes the UFC champion. Franklin was a high school math teacher with literally no background of any martial art. Sean Sherk was a high school wrestler who quit MMA for 2-3 years and worked in construction.

You don't think the Gracie's, who are responsible for starting the UFC, and MMA as we know it, were a fixture of MMA in its early years?

Royce Gracie ring a bell ?

Please re-read my post. I never said all MMA fighters were lifetime martial artists, but a lot of them were...and many of them have extensive wrestling backgrounds.

You are making it seem like Joe Schmoe the grocery bagger can just walk into a cage and dominate the sport. Please, many of these guys are world class athletes.

I don't see the correlation between how someone fares in professional boxing, which is one dimensional, and how they fare in MMA. Two totally different sports, in which they might find that boxing may not have been their strong point after all.

[squealpiggy]

You don't think the Gracie's, who are responsible for starting the UFC, and MMA as we know it, were a fixture of MMA in its early years?

Royce Gracie ring a bell ?

Please re-read my post. I never said all MMA fighters were lifetime martial artists, but a lot of them were...and many of them have extensive wrestling backgrounds.

You are making it seem like Joe Schmoe the grocery bagger can just walk into a cage and dominate the sport. Please, many of these guys are world class athletes.

I don't see the correlation between how someone fares in professional boxing, which is one dimensional, and how they fare in MMA. Two totally different sports, in which they might find that boxing may not have been their strong point after all.

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Thanks.

[squealpiggy]

It's more about structuring of the card then the actual fights. There's really no backup plans in boxing cards in case of fast finishes. They do not plan for situations like that at all.

This isn't true. Every big live fight card has numerous walk-on four rounders available in case one of the scheduled events ends in an early knockout. TV unfortunately does not take advantage of these, probably for contractual reasons, which is a real shame. If you spend $50 on a fight card then you should get your money's worth. IN the UK they show a good portion of the undercard on ppv fights. And why not?

[The_Visitation]

Doesn't matter no one is going to change anyones mind here time to agree to disagree untill 2 top notch fighters from each agree to fight without rules.

Change anyone's mind about what? The dispute isn't some sort of disagreement about which is the most effective fighting system (which is MMA, every time) but what constitutes the best sporting entertainment. Some boxing fans like MMA as well while others don't, and some MMA fans like boxing as well, while some don't.

Personally I think MMA is like basketball; I can admire the athletes but the sports themselves bore me to tears. Just an opinion though, and I certainly wouldn't knock MMA fans. Or indeed basketball fans.

[potatoes]

Anderson Silva, who is the best fighter on the planet P4P, is a Muay Thai fighter.


And I said that most of these guys have been training in martial arts since childhood. Not MMA.

MMA is relatively new as a sport.

The examples you used in your quote are those you handpicked to backup your statements.

The point of my post was to point out to the guy that there are in fact bona fide martial artists in MMA, and have been since its inception.

.....then why is it they never exhibit any martial arts skills? All we hear is false claims, but what we see is totally different.

[Don Corleone]

You know what? You REALLY need to shut it honestly..
i have an mma account at another site and u sir HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ****EN GOD DAMN CLUE about how much mma fans disrespect boxing..if u had ANY IDEA you wouldve just shut the hell up to be honest..ive been watchin mma before MAJORITY of UFC fans even knew what mma was to begin with..
and yes if the ppv is good I ORDER THE DAMN thing MYSELF cause thats how much i like mix martial arts..but i find damn funny whenever someone here ON BOXINGSCENE say some bull**** about "i love mma and boxing fans should talk nice about it"..YOURE not the one explain why boxing is great to those 16yr old TUF fans..YOURE not the one with an mma account[and dont tell me for a SECOND that u have a mma account] and explaining why boxing is not dead..YOURE not the one in an mma site asking why do mma fans ALWAYS talk about how a boxer would get "knocked the **** out" in an octagon but NEVER do they talk about how an mma'er would in a boxing ring.. other mma sites have WAAAAAAAAAY more people in it and SO ****EN MANY of them just ridicule boxing its unbelievable...boxing sites does NOT have as many people in it.....WITH THAT SAID::i hate it when someone on a boxing site comes along every now and then starts preaching about how great mma is..

So to the thread starter:SHUT YOUR ****EN MOUTH AND KEEP YOUR ****EN YAP SHUT ABOUT LECTERING BOXING FANS WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED ABOUT HEARING HOW BOXING IS DEAD YOU ****EN SON OF A *****

Hahaha this post proves what I'm trying to get at. BTW I said boxing is declining and I wrote in quotes that only some ignorant people will disagree. As I said I prefer boxing but I have the decency to admit that it's slowly declining. I don't try to hide this fact with irrelevant garbage and total ignorance of both sports. Why hide it? Even if boxing declines to its lowest point I'll still prefer it over MMA but what I'm trying to get at is just how desperate some fans can be (like yourself) that cry when they hear the word "MMA On The Rise"...What the fuc* is there to be ashamed of? It's the facts. You don't like it then don't post in here. Plain and simple. And it's the boxers themselves who help put boxing into this mess to begin with. Guys like Mayweather who say they don't love the sport anymore well you tell me is that a positive or a negative? Guys like Hatton who frequent UFC events more often then boxing ones (and that might not be a proven fact but nonetheless when it happened, people went crazy).

People need to get their head out their ass and realize these are two different sports that should never ever be compared. Had MMA been strictly kickboxing, then there would be much more to compare but it's not. It involves all sorts of martial arts something boxing doesn't. And boxing involves a specific science and boxing mechanic that MMA can never produce nor specialize in. They're world apart. Let's keep them apart.

The number one criticism of MMA from people here is that :
a) It's only a fad and will be gone soon
b) MMA fighters fight on the ground which makes them gay (from the ****phobes)
and
c) A boxer would destroy an MMA fighter any day

The first two is mere opinion and preference but the last one makes me chuckle. The simple fact that one can combine an art and a science and two completely different combative sports is laughable. It's like comparing the poster goblin to an orangutan.

Oh wait...Never mind...