Money May At UFC 92 Tonight

[Darkstar]

Know what helps the UFC? Truth in sports. And they have that. Boxing has not. Simple as that. Most people were rooting for Forrest and Silva and Nogueira, yet the other guys won. This helps the UFC because the fittest, the most able guys get their deserving wins. It is possible to go around these nature rules in boxing through promotion, and under the table dirty deals. A clear example is Bernard Hopkins or Holyfield, both well over 40 still fighting for tittles to make other guys look good. Neither these old legends or the Vultures who take advantage of their aging bodies are the fittest or the best. In the UFC they are. The UFC biggest stars have all fallen (Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, Shamrock guys) and this leads to new talent and renovation NOT TO MENTION VERY EXCITING FIGHTS. You don't see many 40 year olds holding tittles they don't deserve and defending against carefully chosen opposition like it happens in boxing. In boxing the biggest fights are always the exception and not the rule. Rulling bodies always always! present **** as mandatory challengers. Not in the UFC. This among other reason made me BUY the UFC 92 (and 91) but miss out on ANY of boxing's events in 08. Think about it, i put my money where my mind and mouth are.

I agree on some of that. I hate some of boxings politics.

The UFC is far from perfect. But even Dana says he uses boxing as a example, of what not to do.

[FLYBOY]

Same......

same here....

[-Swizzy-]

True man and that is why I like the UFC. I saw that video you posted of Dana white talking about that scumbag Gary Shaw and how he paid Petruzelli to stand up with Kimbo. The most popular fighter shouldn't win because he's popular, he should win because he's the best.

I didn't know about that. I just looked up the video after I read your post.

[pugilistfan]

He just got owned by ONE punch in the first round. No version of Silva could have taken that. That was a BRUTAL hook, hell, no HW could have taken that!

The problem is he let it happen. And if you're a technically sound boxer you know enough not to throw wide looping hooks right in the pocket against a solid counter puncher. He doesnt help that Silvas CHIN was sticking out.

Man, I just cant get over the fact that this supposed to be top level MMA were watching and yet these guys have brutal technique.

The only guys I like watching are Penn, GSP, Noons, A. Silva.

[pugilistfan]

Know what helps the UFC? Truth in sports. And they have that. Boxing has not. Simple as that. Most people were rooting for Forrest and Silva and Nogueira, yet the other guys won. This helps the UFC because the fittest, the most able guys get their deserving wins. It is possible to go around these nature rules in boxing through promotion, and under the table dirty deals. A clear example is Bernard Hopkins or Holyfield, both well over 40 still fighting for tittles to make other guys look good. Neither these old legends or the Vultures who take advantage of their aging bodies are the fittest or the best. In the UFC they are. The UFC biggest stars have all fallen (Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, Shamrock guys) and this leads to new talent and renovation NOT TO MENTION VERY EXCITING FIGHTS. You don't see many 40 year olds holding tittles they don't deserve and defending against carefully chosen opposition like it happens in boxing. In boxing the biggest fights are always the exception and not the rule. Rulling bodies always always! present **** as mandatory challengers. Not in the UFC. This among other reason made me BUY the UFC 92 (and 91) but miss out on ANY of boxing's events in 08. Think about it, i put my money where my mind and mouth are.

What many believe to be the best fighter in MMA (Fedor) has in the last 2 years fought a MIDDLEWEIGHT while Fedor was around 230lb's, he fought a GIANT of a man who had 1 MMA fight and no athleticism and than he fought the former UFC champion who in the last year had losses over Noguiera and Couture. Both of whom just recently lost their last fight.

Fedor just like guys like Calzaghe are great fighters but you never know if they are truly the greatest because they arent fighting the sports youngest stars and Fedor isnt even apart of the sports best MMA org where all the best fighters are at.

MMA is FULL of corruption and im sick and tired of people ignoring this.

Last time I checked Boxing doesnt give fighters title shots after 2 fights (Lesnar).

[MikeBrew328]

Last time I checked Boxing doesnt give fighters title shots after 2 fights (Lesnar).

Screw boxing, I don't know of ANY sport that gives fighters the "championship" after 2 anything---football, basketball, golf, tennis, swimming, anything really.

Put it this way...ITS HARDER TO WIN THE NOVICE GOLDEN GLOVES ANYWHERE....you fight like 5 or 6 times for that....and thats not even pro...not even close. Which is why I can't take MMA seriously...it is like Wrestling to me.

I read Fox Sports recap ofthe Evans fight, and they were tlaking about the "guard" and boring **** like that..why would 20,000 people gather around a ring watching 2 people play with eachother...boxing is a much more exciting spectacle...you've got grace, footwork, great fights with nonstop flow of action..

[Juggernaut]

BTW...Wand will KO Rampage again!!!

You ****en jinxed it and Wand got Hendo'd! lol

[FreshPrince]

The bad thing with mma that is forming is the other organizations. Affliction for example is putting out good fights, but the titles are meaningful cause there's only a few cards a year. Also Fedor is never going to fight Lesnar/Mir so we'll never really know who the beast heavy is.
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[MOREBASS]

Screw boxing, I don't know of ANY sport that gives fighters the "championship" after 2 anything---football, basketball, golf, tennis, swimming, anything really.

Put it this way...ITS HARDER TO WIN THE NOVICE GOLDEN GLOVES ANYWHERE....you fight like 5 or 6 times for that....and thats not even pro...not even close. Which is why I can't take MMA seriously...it is like Wrestling to me.

I read Fox Sports recap ofthe Evans fight, and they were tlaking about the "guard" and boring **** like that..why would 20,000 people gather around a ring watching 2 people play with eachother...boxing is a much more exciting spectacle...you've got grace, footwork, great fights with nonstop flow of action..

You don't have to take it seriously.

There are paying customers who do, and the sport is doing just fine without people like you.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.



Boxing doesn't even have a unified sanctioning body. The fact is this is tainting the sport.

The UFC has power to make any fight they feel their fans want to see, without having to negotiate what kind of gloves to use, or what kind of split the fighters are getting.


Lesnar got a title shot because he is a decorated wrestler, but more because he brings big business to a growing sport.

How could you compare boxing, which has been around for hundreds of years, to a sport that hasn't even truly established itself in mainstream popular culture ?

[pugilistfan]

You don't have to take it seriously.

There are paying customers who do, and the sport is doing just fine without people like you.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.



Boxing doesn't even have a unified sanctioning body. The fact is this is tainting the sport.

The UFC has power to make any fight they feel their fans want to see, without having to negotiate what kind of gloves to use, or what kind of split the fighters are getting.


Lesnar got a title shot because he is a decorated wrestler, but more because he brings big business to a growing sport.

How could you compare boxing, which has been around for hundreds of years, to a sport that hasn't even truly established itself in mainstream popular culture ?

There are alot of wrestlers in MMA. Lesnar didnt get a title shot because of that. He got it SOLELY because of his popularity. And that is what makes a sport lose credibility.

Listen, we can complain about each sports problems but the bottom line is combat sports will always be full of corruption. In MMA you have guys getting title shots after 2 fights and you have 0-1 fighters getting a crack at Fedor. In boxing NO WAY in hell would you get a 0-1 fighter to take on Calzaghe. And there is no way in hell promoters would be able to get away with it.

The problem with MMA is that one ORGANIZATION dominates the sport and the problem with that is people dont know who the best fighters are in the sport. Is Fedor the best? Or is Mir, or is Lesnar. And the worst part is they WILL NEVER FIGHT EACH OTHER because the UFC doesnt cross promote. So in boxing some fights are unlikely but arent impossible whereas in MMA some FIGHTS literally are IMPOSSIBLE.