JMM doesn't deserve a 3rd fight with Manny!

[Pullcounter]

this fight wont happen..

at least not in the next 3 fights...

it can happen if pbf/pac negotiations fail after pac/hatton.

[El Ceja]

I rewatched the fight three times and scored it 115 to 112 In favor of JMM...

[juancho]

He said the truth...as soon as JMM beat Casa. Everyone said Casa was past it and didn't give him credit. Alot of Pac fans call him a raging ****...if that ain't hate I don't know what is.

hell yeah,haters man but JMM needs to move on cuz its obvious pac don't want none,he got hatton and maybe mayweather so i'd rather see him take over the lightweight division

[Foodie One]

LOL. the new memorable moments scoring system? Watch the fights and score the rounds on the ten point must system. There is definitely an argument for Marquez winning the fight despite what you mentioned.

But I agree on you on Marquez having the wrong attitude, even if he didn't think he olst he should say he thought he won but in a way that doesn't come across so bitchy.

Okay scoring on 10 point must, what about judging taking into account:
1) Clean Punching
2) Effective aggressiveness
3) Ring Generalship
4) Defense
with emphasis on clean and effective punching

Are you saying the knockdown of JMM didn't mean anything, the wobbling didn't mean anything. EFFECTIVE AGGRESSIVENESS & RING GENERALSHIP IS THE KEY HERE.

[El Ceja]

Okay scoring on 10 point must, what about judging taking into account:
1) Clean Punching
2) Effective aggressiveness
3) Ring Generalship
4) Defense
with emphasis on clean and effective punching

Are you saying the knockdown of JMM didn't mean anything, the wobbling didn't mean anything. EFFECTIVE AGGRESSIVENESS & RING GENERALSHIP IS THE KEY HERE.

He was getting counterd all day!!!! How many rounds did pac have in the bank? The rounds that pac won were very hard to judge and could of gone either way!!!Just chasing someone and throwing punches doesn't mean you win the round...

[mellow_mood]

it can happen if pbf/pac negotiations fail after pac/hatton.

hmmmz???


i dont think so man....

manny will go for the big figures.. and jmm doesnt bring them.... not right now.. he will milk his fame as much as he can!! and he knows jmm aint no walk in the park...

soo.. he would rather loose to anybody else for more money....

some one like cotto for example...

[Pullcounter]

hmmmz???


i dont think so man....

manny will go for the big figures.. and jmm doesnt bring them.... not right now.. he will milk his fame as much as he can!! and he knows jmm aint no walk in the park...

soo.. he would rather loose to anybody else for more money....

some one like cotto for example...

you make a good point but have a few flaws in your argument...

pac will only fight cotto if:

1) cotto beats money marg which is not likely.

2) cotto fights pac at a catchweight which is not likely

3) arum is cashing out on one of them not likely

So... there are snags there... JMM though, will do whatever it takes to get pac in the ring. therefore JMM/Pac III is more likely than Cotto/Pac. sorry bro.

[Doc Holliday]

What JMM nneds to do is stop flying to the Phillipines and beat and clean out the 135lb division.

HA ha you make it sound like he flies to the phillipines every week. He's already moved on and has already started cleaning out 135 with the victory over Casa. Next is Diaz and then Campbell. And if Roach and Manny have the guts they'll come back and settle the rivalry once and for all.

[mellow_mood]

you make a good point but have a few flaws in your argument...

pac will only fight cotto if:

1) cotto beats money marg which is not likely.

2) cotto fights pac at a catchweight which is not likely

3) arum is cashing out on one of them not likely

So... there are snags there... JMM though, will do whatever it takes to get pac in the ring. therefore JMM/Pac III is more likely than Cotto/Pac. sorry bro.

cotto was just an example.... but either way.. it seems more solid than jmm rematch....

cotto doesnt necesary have to beat margie... to get pac ... he needs to represent good numbers for the risk for pac which he does.

im with you in tha catch weight thing... if it happens it will be 147 but who knows if they give a try for 145 who knows.

about arum cashing out one of them...

alright... thats right now.. but lets make this scenario for pac...

he beat.. hatton
he loooses to pbf....

would he rather preffer to go to jmm rematch for less money than give it a try for cotto for more $$

this is unlikely to happen... but it is what it is.. manny pac.. aint fighting for less than 4 to 6 millions now....

jmm doesnt bring enough numbers for him to go in that direction...

like i say.. cotto .. was just an example....... but it gives you a good idea of the kind of money pac will be looking for from now on...


bottom line...

manny pac vs jmm is not happenin!! at least for the next 4 fights

[mellow_mood]

on a side note...

i disagree with this thread.. because i think that he DOES DESERVE A SHOT!!...

but i cant see that fight in the near future!