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  • Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
    Anyone from LWW and below? lol You serious? Morales wasn't a strong lightweight at all. And Marquez yeah, he always had some pop, even at his age he was still stingin Paq, but he was never a one punch KO guy. But Marquez at lightweight is lookin very heavy handed, I already said I could see him bein able to stop Paq within 12 at 135. But I've seen everyone from Larios to Solis hurt Paq. But it's hard to gauge Paq's chin, he hasn't even faced that many guys that have an offense let alone a solid punch.
    everytime you talk of pac you act like he is overated and a bum. If he is a bum what does that make morales barrera and marquez. you think he handpicks easy opponents, correct me if im wrong hater, but the first fight in the states was in 2 weeks notice against the champ ledwaba. his first fight at featherweight was p4p3 barrera. his next fight after that was the most avoided featherweight in marquez. He moved up three weights to fight oscar who just lost a sd against floyd a year ago.

    i know you hate pac but pleez give credit where its due, and stop hating on his accomplishments.

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    • def too early for ortiz

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      • too young, too soon.

        Pacman would school him at this stage!

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        • Hasn't Manny beat up enough Mexicans? Let him dominate some other nations boxers for once.

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          • Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
            Hasn't Manny beat up enough Mexicans? Let him dominate some other nations boxers for once.
            totally agree. these mexican fans just want revenge but it aint gonna happen. they need to get over it and move on.

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            • Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
              Does this mean I won't be winning poster of the year at Boxingscene.com?

              lol The **** outta here, I wouldn't consider those Marquez fights as "getting beat." If he got beat, he wouldn't be who he is today.
              jmm was who he was before pac came along; JMM is that type of talent that you just need an opportunity and he blows the lid of.

              trust that if it wasn't pac it'd a been mab or erik.

              you wouldn't consider what pac did to JMM as getting beat, would you

              and why the **** you alway's 'lol'ing' for? the only type of people who laugh that much are fairly attractive fat chicks - you know, the wilson phillips type of girl.

              i bet with some weight loss you'd achieve a ton, no pun intended.
              Last edited by baya; 03-09-2009, 07:54 PM.

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              • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
                everytime you talk of pac you act like he is overated and a bum.
                Only because he hasn't really ever, EVER, looked good against anyone with a offense, and he's only fought maybe 2 guys that even had an offense. lol How can everyone just turn their head at those facts? That **** amazes me everytime. Not only that, but how can anyone think that a left hand like Ortiz' wouldn't get in on Paq? lol It's not like Paq is a defensive wizard, the guy eats punches like crazy when he's in there with someone who can get their own great offense off. And not only that, but how can anyone think Paq can eat that punch for 12 rounds? If Marquez, as slow as he has become can touch Paq up pretty much when ever he has to, what makes anyone think Ortiz wouldn't be able to? lol I don't understand this at all, Paq's best fights are against stiffs who are basically ripe to fall, or ripe to be overwhelmed, basically guy's who can't even fight back. The **** never seizes to amaze me at how everyone thinks a Paq opponent is just gonna sit there and get pummeled, lol Nah, only the stiffs. And it's not even like that's hard to see. I mean I know I'm a ****in prodigy/genius, but I seriously can't be the only one that see's how obvious that **** is lol..

                Basically, Ortiz vs Paq is a little too easy to predict. I'm not sayin Paq wouldn't make a fight out of it, but he would eat a left hand thats more then heavy enough to lay him out.

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                • Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN View Post
                  Only because he hasn't really ever, EVER, looked good against anyone with a offense, and he's only fought maybe 2 guys that even had an offense. lol How can everyone just turn their head at those facts? That **** amazes me everytime. Not only that, but how can anyone think that a left hand like Ortiz' wouldn't get in on Paq? lol It's not like Paq is a defensive wizard, the guy eats punches like crazy when he's in there with someone who can get their own great offense off. And not only that, but how can anyone think Paq can eat that punch for 12 rounds? If Marquez, as slow as he has become can touch Paq up pretty much when ever he has to, what makes anyone think Ortiz wouldn't be able to? lol I don't understand this at all, Paq's best fights are against stiffs who are basically ripe to fall, or ripe to be overwhelmed, basically guy's who can't even fight back. The **** never seizes to amaze me at how everyone thinks a Paq opponent is just gonna sit there and get pummeled, lol Nah, only the stiffs. And it's not even like that's hard to see. I mean I know I'm a ****in prodigy/genius, but I seriously can't be the only one that see's how obvious that **** is lol..

                  Basically, Ortiz vs Paq is a little too easy to predict. I'm not sayin Paq wouldn't make a fight out of it, but he would eat a left hand thats more then heavy enough to lay him out.
                  Whatever..... youre just trying to piss off pac fans.

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                  • Originally posted by baya View Post
                    jmm was who he was before pac came along; JMM is that type of talent that you just need an opportunity and he blows the lid of.

                    trust that if it wasn't pac it'd a been mab or erik.

                    you wouldn't consider what pac did to JMM as getting beat, would you

                    and why the **** you alway's 'lol'ing' for? the only type of people who laugh that much are fairly attractive fat chicks - you know, the wilson phillips type of girl.

                    i bet with some weight loss you'd achieve a ton, no pun intended.
                    lol I have no idea what you just said, but no. There's getting beat, then there's JMM vs Paq. In no way shape or form did I personally feel like Marquez got "beat." Each fight, it was points vs performance. Paq got the points, or I should say "the single point." but Marquez did all the work.

                    I'm sorry though, I couldn't finish reading what you typed, I went to slam my face into this cake and some icing got in my eye.

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                    • Originally posted by strugler View Post
                      Whatever..... youre just trying to piss off pac fans.
                      If it's any consolation bro, you are not alone. There are 30 others who swear they live with faries and uncorns who voted with you. The poll is pretty accurate in pointing out that 3 out of 10 people are delusional.

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