European Officiating: Fall Of A Boxing Empire

**Texanballer** · 12-26-2008, 05:00 PM

I never seen Ottke fight. I had no interest in him. But to the people who are familiar with him, how many losses should he really have?

**The Hammer** · 12-26-2008, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by texanballer

I never seen Ottke fight. I had no interest in him. But to the people who are familiar with him, how many losses should he really have?

He perhaps should have one loss. The Ottke-Reid fight was a gift decision, similar to Dawson vs. Johnson. The Larsen fight was very close and could have gone either way.

But if you download and watch the other fights from our videos section, you'll see he was a good fighter who deserved his other wins.

**Bhopreign** · 12-26-2008, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Tunney

He perhaps should have one loss. The Ottke-Reid fight was a gift decision, similar to Dawson vs. Johnson. The Larsen fight was very close and could have gone either way.

But if you download and watch the other fights from our videos section, you'll see he was a good fighter who deserved his other wins.

He was actually pretty good, very cagey, didnt wanna get hit and was sneaky with his shots.

**SJM122** · 12-26-2008, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Bhopreign

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:13586

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...e=Fight:533364

I've have these two fights on dvd and they were not robberies. Ottke deserved to win both but the other Ottke bouts I can't comment on because I haven't seen them.

**potatoes** · 12-26-2008, 06:24 PM

Any time a fight is close there will always be somebody bitching about the decision.

**Testdead** · 12-26-2008, 06:33 PM

Germany and Saurland are frauds.

id take the uk for refs and judges over the US every day of the week. And twice on Sunday.

**daggum** · 12-26-2008, 06:36 PM

ottke was clearly a cut above the rest. especially calzaghe who wanted none of him. roy jones and hopkins all ducked him furiously. ottke retired an undefeated all time great.

**daggum** · 12-26-2008, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Testdead

Germany and Saurland are frauds.

id take the uk for refs and judges over the US every day of the week. And twice on Sunday.

twice on sunday huh. what major boxing events take place on sunday ya dumb bloke.

**The Hammer** · 12-26-2008, 06:40 PM

The worst decisions I've seen are in the US:

Holyfield-Lewis I
Casamayor-Santa Cruz
Sturm-De La Hoya
Meehan-Brewster
De La Hoya-Mosley
Toney-Tiberi

European Officiating: Fall Of A Boxing Empire