Boxing Talent: Training or Genetics

[m00ks]

Do you guys believe that ANYONE can become a great boxer given enough will and proper training or do you think that great boxers were just born to fight?

[drag0n_]

IMO genetics does play a big factor in being the worlds- best. Natural Power, build , chin etc. But training and the mental attitude/desire to succeed is also a huge factor. Talent and genes can only take you so far IMO. The hard work must be done to get to the top.

As a percentage i'd say 80% training etc and 20% Genetics , natural talent.

Just my rookie opinion

[spinksjinx]

IMO genetics does play a big factor in being the worlds- best. Natural Power, build , chin etc. But training and the mental attitude/desire to succeed is also a huge factor. Talent and genes can only take you so far IMO. The hard work must be done to get to the top.

As a percentage i'd say 80% training etc and 20% Genetics , natural talent.

Just my rookie opinion

I agree to an extent, But I think in boxing the skill is trained but like you said the natural abilities is genetic.....Prime Example Laila Ali, It is just to damn bad he didnt have a son....

However, look at Ray Leonards 1st son, big slop of **** probably gets fatigued on an escalator.

Ray Robinsons 1st son as well.

[m00ks]

For someone like Morales who I heard was living on top of a boxing gym and took up the sport when he was 8, that dedication and background help tremendously on what he became today. Now expose someone else to the same situation, would this person be as good?

[ispayder]

In terms of percentage, I would say Genetics plays 10%
Natural Talent 20%
Determination 20%
Proper Training 50%
Luck may also come into play but take any one of the above factors and you will never have a good champion.

[TysonForeman]

Genetics plays a huge factor in everything. Take an average skinny guy with a good work ethic and great heart, train the hell out of him and toss him in the ring with Roberto Duran. Duran will kill him.

You need Natural Talent, Heart, Training. Neither is more important than the other. Like ispayder said, you need all three to even have a chance.

This is true in every arena of life. No one would say that Einstein just worked harder than other scientists, he was also born with a superior mind. To be a great boxer, you have to be born with a superior potential.

[spinksjinx]

Genetics plays a huge factor in everything. Take an average skinny guy with a good work ethic and great heart, train the hell out of him and toss him in the ring with Roberto Duran. Duran will kill him.

You need Natural Talent, Heart, Training. Neither is more important than the other. Like ispayder said, you need all three to even have a chance.

This is true in every arena of life. No one would say that Einstein just worked harder than other scientists, he was also born with a superior mind. To be a great boxer, you have to be born with a superior potential.

While I agree, The "good" genetics have to start somewhere...

For example, I train to box and train my ass I am nothing superior but im the average joe boxer. Then I have a son and push it on him and train his ass off, he is a bit better then I was and then he passes it down....It has to start somewhere though, whether it be a small dose or a large injection....I think genetics play little in the sport of boxing (minue the chin and such)


I dont really like to get into the whole genetic debate, I am proof bad genetics mean ****.

[phallus]

i don't know much about genetics but i know i am not an athlete, no one who's ever known me has ever accused me of being an athlete, but several people who've seen me fight say i am a talented boxer ( but i'm no Roy Jones Jr )... how much is talent, how much is determination?

[GasPed]

Genetics plays a huge factor in everything. Take an average skinny guy with a good work ethic and great heart, train the hell out of him and toss him in the ring with Roberto Duran. Duran will kill him.

You need Natural Talent, Heart, Training. Neither is more important than the other. Like ispayder said, you need all three to even have a chance.

This is true in every arena of life. No one would say that Einstein just worked harder than other scientists, he was also born with a superior mind. To be a great boxer, you have to be born with a superior potential.

Completely agree. Genetic component in the elite boxers (or elite Olympic athletes, NFL stars, scientists, or politicians (well, maybe not the last one ) is a very big factor. That's not to say a great boxer is guaranteed to have great boxer progeny, but he'll have a better chance than say, a Web geek (like us).

[chilly9876]

i dont think its really genetics,i think its jus to do with whther you're born with it or not.some ppl jus have a natural talent at certain things,doesnt necessarily have to come from genes.
You have to have that talent in boxing to be a real champ,couple the talent with training and only then can you get a world champ.
A good examle of natural talent- a boxing trainer was once walking past a school where he saw a small skinny kid fighting a much bigger boy,the skinny kid was too fast for the bigger boy and showed excellent reflexes for a 6 yr old. The trainer spoke to the skinny kids parents and got this 6 yr old to come to the gym. This trainer was bren ingle and the child....Naseem Hamed.