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  • multivitamins
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    Nice Article - Pacquiao embarrassed Mayweather with his Win

    Head to head, Manny outdid Floyd--Pacquiao schooled De La Hoya, while Floyd eked out a decision. While Floyd sits, Horgan says, his legacy is eroding.


    Manny Is The New Floyd

    By Dan Horgan

    As former pound-for-pound kingpin and four-division champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. leisurely spends the tens of millions of dollars he made in his 11-year fight career that ended when he retired just over a year ago, Filipino storm Manny Pacquiao has taken Mayweather’s place as boxing’s top fighter – and begun diminishing Mayweather’s legacy by outdoing the Grand Rapids native’s late-career success.

    On December 6, Pacquiao, moving up twelve pounds in weight, met superstar Oscar De La Hoya in a welterweight fight that brought boxing back into the mainstream spotlight. A fight fan couldn’t turn on the T.V. or pick up anything resembling a men’s magazine without seeing pre-bout coverage or advertising, and HBO’s acclaimed series 24/7, which documents fighters’ lives and training camps prior to HBO Pay-Per-View bouts, received more exposure than ever through YouTube, where the first episode received over 1.5-million views.

    Over seven one-sided rounds, Pacquiao embarrassed De La Hoya with quicker, stronger hands and a skill set that made what should have been a competitive prizefight seem like a sparring session. Many expected De La Hoya, who has fought the past eleven years between welterweight and middleweight, to overpower Pacquiao, who began his career at a meek 106 pounds. But Pacquiao blew De La Hoya away, sending the nine-time champ into probable retirement.

    For De La Hoya, the Pacquiao loss must have been a cruel déjà vu experience, as just 19 months earlier, he was also beaten on boxing’s biggest stage against the sport’s pound-for-pound best (at the time, Mayweather Jr.). What could have been a career-defining victory for “The Golden Boy” turned into another embarrassing defeat, and the 35 year old was again forced to tip his cap and admit that his rival was, at least for one night, a better fighter.

    But for Mayweather Jr., De La Hoya’s loss to Pacquiao could be even more damaging.

    When Mayweather outpointed De La Hoya via split decision, he got what many experts believed to be one of his career-best victories. He was, after all, fighting a much bigger man who had won belts in several divisions and was coming off of a dynamic sixth-round knockout over the dangerous Ricardo Mayorga.

    But after Pacquiao’s emphatic thumping of Oscar, Mayweather’s narrow win over De La Hoya not only seems less impressive but almost embarrassing for Mayweather. Considering De La Hoya’s past-prime state, which Pacquiao exploited easily, Mayweather in hindsight should have disposed of his foe with ease in their 150-pound meeting. But he instead struggled to eke out a victory, which makes one wonder if Mayweather really was the dominant force he was perceived to be towards the end of his career.

    We’ll get a better gauge of Mayweather’s supremacy when Pacquiao squares off against Ricky Hatton in May. Hatton was Mayweather’s final victim – he fell to Floyd via tenth-round TKO in a semi-competitive fight – and should Pacquiao blow away the rugged Brit, he will again one-up Mayweather, and diminish the latter’s legacy.

    The only way Mayweather can thwart the damage Pacquiao is doing to his name is to come out of retirement and fight him. Let’s just hope he’s not too busy spending money to consider fighting the man who has taken his place within the sport.

    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...nny-new-floyd/
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    should Pacquiao blow away the rugged Brit - errrrr yeah thats right. NEVER going to happen. Hatton wins this.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      Mayweather in hindsight should have disposed of his foe with ease in their 150-pound meeting
      Just another ignorant writer who hasn't done his research on this particular story.

      First, the fight between Oscar and Floyd was at 154 pounds, not 150. Second, it's two different versions of Oscar. One year+ difference,different trainers, and about 20 pounds difference of the two versions of Oscar come fight night from what I hear. Sure, both versions were past their prime but one was "alive" and the other, "dead" from improper/overtraining and weight decreases/dieting.


      I think we can call Pac's win over Morales into question then given his position at the time. Morales was out-boxed by Zahir Raheem before Pac beat him and that was at a slightly higher weight where it gave room for Morales to be "healthier."

      Many expected De La Hoya, who has fought the past eleven years between welterweight and middleweight, to overpower Pacquiao, who began his career at a meek 106 pound
      As Flawless would say...Pac was 16 at that weight, same weight and age Floyd was at when he won the Golden Gloves. The only difference is that one was Pro and the other was Amatuer. Plus, if we are going to bring up where Pac started, let's bring up where Oscar started. And the fact that Pac had to move up to JrWW because Freddie said he was having trouble making the weight...while showing up at fight-time at 147 for his 135 pound bout. Oscar weighed how much by fight time on that night against Oscar?

      Manny was the better fit fighter on that night...no question.


      And for Hatton: Floyd already knocked him out. Pac has to look good in this fight and he has to knock Hatton out to even compare to Floyd's win against an undefeated Hatton.




      In the end, Floyd hurt himself by not fighting Margarito, Cotto and Williams...or any of the three. Had he done that, there would be no talk.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-23-2008, 10:00 AM.

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        Originally posted by ATFsven
        should Pacquiao blow away the rugged Brit - errrrr yeah thats right. NEVER going to happen. Hatton wins this.
        LOL. Dream on.



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          #5
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          Just another ignorant writer who hasn't done his research on this particular story.

          First, the fight between Oscar and Floyd was at 154 pounds, not 150. Second, it's two different versions of Oscar. One year+ difference,different trainers, and about 20 pounds difference of the two versions of Oscar come fight night from what I hear. Sure, both versions were past their prime but one was "alive" and the other, "dead" from improper/overtraining and weight decreases/dieting.


          I think we can call Pac's win over Morales into question then given his position at the time. Morales was out-boxed by Zahir Raheem before Pac beat him and that was at a slightly higher weight where it gave room for Morales to be "healthier."



          As Flawless would say...Pac was 16 at that weight, same weight and age Floyd was at when he won the Golden Gloves. The only difference is that one was Pro and the other was Amatuer. Plus, if we are going to bring up where Pac started, let's bring up where Oscar started. And the fact that Pac had to move up to JrWW because Freddie said he was having trouble making the weight...while showing up at fight-time at 147 for his 135 pound bout. Oscar weighed how much by fight time on that night against Oscar?

          Manny was the better fit fighter on that night...no question.


          And for Hatton: Floyd already knocked him out. Pac has to look good in this fight and he has to knock Hatton out to even compare to Floyd's win against an undefeated Hatton.




          In the end, Floyd hurt himself by not fighting Margarito, Cotto and Williams...or any of the three. Had he done that, there would be no talk.

          Manny Pacquiao >>> Floyd

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            Floyd fought at 150 and was ACTUALLY the smaller man, weight-wise too. Plus Oscar had more left in the tank. Sure the Pac victory was way more impressive but you can't fault Floyd for fighting the way he does, it's just his nature.

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              Originally posted by Majority_Draw
              Floyd fought at 150 and was ACTUALLY the smaller man, weight-wise too. Plus Oscar had more left in the tank. Sure the Pac victory was way more impressive but you can't fault Floyd for fighting the way he does, it's just his nature.
              Exactly...we cant blame Floyd for his potshot..potshot...run...run...potshot style...Thats just the way he is....(Still remember the fans leaving and booing during his Baldomir fight...that was insulting to Floyd to say the least)

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                Pacman the Flyweight embrassed Middleweights including Trinidad, he put everyone to shame

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lesterprettyboy
                  Exactly...we cant blame Floyd for his potshot..potshot...run...run...potshot style...Thats just the way he is....(Still remember the fans leaving and booing during his Baldomir fight...that was insulting to Floyd to say the least)
                  You forgot about that gayish clinching, embracing, hugging thing after the potshots...

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                    Mayweather and Pacman at 16 were both 106 fighters. The difference between shows in the Oscar fight. Mayweather fought Oscar at 154 a division were he was number one fighter ranked by ring and Mayweather won a easy UD. Mayweather was P4P best back then and started favourite.

                    Pacman fought Oscar at 147, a weight Oscar said to Mayweather he could not make. Manny P technically did up 2 weights but at 135 fight night he weighs 146. That is pretty much a WW weight. He weigh in at 148 while Mayweather was 148 against Oscar as well(correct me if I am wrong). Also add to the fact Oscar was weight drained. Manny P started heavy underdog even when he was P4P best

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