Barrera , Morales and Marquez

[Left Hook Tua]

Well, then .......actually, I'm not going to go there......

you better not say he beat barrera , uncle benny.

while still good barrera was no longer at his best.

pacquiao gets **** for beating barrera while OLD and PAST PRIME......marquez fought barrera 4-5 years later than pac's first fight with him.

[Left Hook Tua]

although maybe 140 is to much but IMHO JMM can beat both diaz & campbell...

i don't think he beats nate or juan.

[S.G.]

Marquez should have wins over Pacman and John on his record too, of course he will lose credit for those fights in time from boxrec fans

he's favourite for the Diaz fight and rightly so even if it is a tough fight to be confident about and he's never dodged a challenge (in fact right now he's doing what Pacquiao should be doing)

he is a great. maybe not as great as Barrera or Morales (not many are)... but he's still a great

[MakeDamnSure]

Marquez should have wins over Pacman and John on his record too, of course he will lose credit for those fights in time from boxrec fans

he's favourite for the Diaz fight and rightly so even if it is a tough fight to be confident about and he's never dodged a challenge (in fact right now he's doing what Pacquiao should be doing)

he is a great. maybe not as great as Barrera or Morales (not many are)... but he's still a great

A lot of people also had Pac beating Marquez twice. It's a fact Pacquiao beat Marquez twice.

And clearly he lost to Chris John. The word robbery is a **** made up by his fans. Just watch the fight in youtube.

[DarchinyFAN]

Marco Antonio Barrera:

WBC130 Champion 2004-2007
IBF130 Champion 2005
WBC126 Champion 2002
IBO126 Champion 2001
WBO122 Champion 1995-1996 , 1998-2000

Defeated Erik Morales , Naseem Hamed , Johnny Tapia , Kevin Kelley , Paulie Ayala , Kennedy McKinney plus many more good to great wins.

Erik Morales:

WBC130 Champion 2004
IBF130 Champion 2004
WBC126 Champion 2000-2002 , 2002-2003
WBO122 Champion 2000
WBC122 Champion 1997-2000

Defeated Manny Pacquiao , Marco Antonio Barrera , Daniel Zaragoza , Paulie Ayala , Carlos Hernandez , Jesus Chavez , Kevin Kelley , Junior Jones plus many more good to great wins.

Juan Manuel Marquez:

WBC130 Champion 2007
WBA126 Champion 2003-2006
IBF126 Champion 2003-2005

Biggest wins were Manuel Medina and Derrick Gainer before beating an old Barrera last year and a shot Casamayor this year.

Mexico's 3 Greats? Maybe 2 and 1/2......

Erik Morales = Marco Antonio Barrera.........Marquez is not on their level of greatness.

Couple of things on the resume.

Barrera and Casamayor even at the point JMM beat them were as good if not better than some of the guys listed on Morales and Barrera's resumes (like Kevin Kelly [going down by the time Morales got to him] Carlos Hernandez, Johnny Tapia [by the time Barrera got to him]) you could probably add Agapito Sanchez to the Marquez list also, as he was as good as these guys, as was Rocky Juarez on the Barrera and Marquez lists.

[gopi11]

Speaking of the JMM/John fight, can anybody provide a link?

[daggum]

tapia and ayala are great wins? beating up on 118 pounders moving up is great but moving up to 135 and beating the champ is ****.

[Left Hook Tua]

Couple of things on the resume.

Barrera and Casamayor even at the point JMM beat them were as good if not better than some of the guys listed on Morales and Barrera's resumes (like Kevin Kelly [going down by the time Morales got to him] Carlos Hernandez, Johnny Tapia [by the time Barrera got to him]) you could probably add Agapito Sanchez to the Marquez list also, as he was as good as these guys, as was Rocky Juarez on the Barrera and Marquez lists.

fair enough.

but if we're gonna add guys like agapito and juarez then we're gonna have to add other guys as well like in jin chi , peden , jones , etc.

[Left Hook Tua]

tapia and ayala are great wins? beating up on 118 pounders moving up is great but moving up to 135 and beating the champ is ****.

did i say beating casamayor was ****?

it's still a good win no matter how past prime casamayor is.

[HappyBoxingFan]

Marco Antonio Barrera:

WBC130 Champion 2004-2007
IBF130 Champion 2005
WBC126 Champion 2002
IBO126 Champion 2001
WBO122 Champion 1995-1996 , 1998-2000

Defeated Erik Morales , Naseem Hamed , Johnny Tapia , Kevin Kelley , Paulie Ayala , Kennedy McKinney plus many more good to great wins.

Erik Morales:

WBC130 Champion 2004
IBF130 Champion 2004
WBC126 Champion 2000-2002 , 2002-2003
WBO122 Champion 2000
WBC122 Champion 1997-2000

Defeated Manny Pacquiao , Marco Antonio Barrera , Daniel Zaragoza , Paulie Ayala , Carlos Hernandez , Jesus Chavez , Kevin Kelley , Junior Jones plus many more good to great wins.

Juan Manuel Marquez:

WBC130 Champion 2007
WBA126 Champion 2003-2006
IBF126 Champion 2003-2005

Biggest wins were Manuel Medina and Derrick Gainer before beating an old Barrera last year and a shot Casamayor this year.

Mexico's 3 Greats? Maybe 2 and 1/2......

Erik Morales = Marco Antonio Barrera.........Marquez is not on their level of greatness.

I think you're ignoring the fact that Marquez' best performances didn't come against Casamayor or Barrera but rather Pacquiao.