Anybody feels they are given out ppv's too easily???

[brooklyn kid]

I mean if you look at the state of the sport right now and the economy you would think that ppv's would be far few inbetween, and most likely be earned and not given. But it seems that its just been the opposite in recent years (2000- present).

Take this for instance look at floyd mayweather and kelly pavlik (even though I love the guy ,sorry kelz!!)

floyd won his first title against somewhat likely HOF'er genaro hernandez
in 1998. he shortly entered the p4p list. It took floyd 7 YEARS after winning
a title and being on the p4p list to get a ppv fight.

kelly pavlik won his first title in 2007 against a mediocre jermain taylor. shortly after he was awarded a ppv fight with jermain taylor 4 -5 months of
becoming a champion. he also gotta a fight with B-hop on ppv which was not ppv worthy even though the fight was one of the best ive seen.

I think a fighter has to prove if he is HOF material before he gets a ppv
shot it has never worked out well if a fighter is given clout without earning it
(de la hoya is the exception).

[brooklyn kid]

Another thing I feel if a ppv fight is not projected to go into the 400,000 buy
range dont bother.

because instead of going straight for the money they can get the public to know them enough first. (i.e kelly pavlik, miguel cotto, julio cesar chavez jr. etc... all made the mistake of taking ppv too soon.)

its like if you fight on ppv too soon nobody will buy the ppv in an enourmous rate .simply because most dont order ppv's with fighters they dont know or never seen fight

[brooklyn kid]

nobody agrees with me ?????

damn I fail,

[Njord777]

Economics. We keep buying so they keep selling. Sure, some of the recent PPV's aren't selling very well but they're still making a good deal of money for the boxers, promoters and, in most cases, HBO itself. I mean, a ****ty PPV number, I think most could agree, that we still see often is the 300k range. That's considered, I think, a decent sell but isn't too spectacular at all. At $60 a buy, though, it's still $18,000,000. Now, I'm not in the business but I do know that's excluding live gate and any sponsor backing. So that's a ton of cash being thrown around for HBO and those involved to suck up.

You're Kelly Pavlik. Your people tell you that you can: A.) Fight Rubio on regular HBO and make a decent purse, get a bit more exposure or, B.) Fight someone who isn't a big enough name on a PPV card anyway and, more than likely, not get too much **** for it - and be millions of dollars more rich.

Even the saintly, kind hearted, kid next door in Pavlik is going to take the millions in increased purse to fight on PPV. It's not just a sport to the boxers, it's a career. A living. If someone asked you if you wanted to do the same thing for more money, wouldn't you say yes?

Until we stop buying there are too many people making cash from those who do buy the PPV's even while they *****.