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[trfcdan86]

Jeff Lacy was German and his fight with Joe Calzaghe was in Germany I feel he may have gotten away with draw! Such is incompetance in the scoring over there I wouldn't of been surprised.

It makes me feel sick to the stomach when you see a fight where one fighter is blatenly robbed. I love the sport of boxing more than any other but when you see a robbery like last night you think "what's the point following this corrupt bull****"

Don't get me wrong robberies happen all over the boxing world but in Europe (barring the UK as we aren't have as bad as the likes of Germany and Italy) it is the norm. How can the notion exsist where "if you go to Germany your going to get robbed" without serious investigation?

Somethig needs to happen in boxing soon to end this **** but the truth is that boxing is about money and where there's money there are going to be crooks so the corrupt nature of the sport will sadly never go away.

[aether]

dude, you copied my thread-starting style

[Motofan]

The difference is that Joe kicked his ass for the whole fight. Joe not only won, but he embarrassed and hurt him. Evander won, but he didnt exactly beat him up. I cant see the worst judges in the world screwing that one up.

[trfcdan86]

dude, you copied my thread-starting style

Did I? Sorry dude, didn't mean to

[The_Visitation]

Jeff Lacy was German and his fight with Joe Calzaghe was in Germany I feel he may have gotten away with draw! Such is incompetence in the scoring over there I wouldn't of been surprised.

I wouldn't get too hung up on the 'over there'. Holyfield was on the 'right' side of just such a draw in his first fight against Lewis. It was, realistically, 117-111 Lewis, who connected with something like three times as many punches - and he wasn't a 'slapper'! That was at Madison Square Garden, and judges who saw it as a draw and gave it to Holyfield were actually British and American respectively.

You always have to ask yourself how such travesties happen. In that case I think it was a combination of two things; Larry O'Connell trying just a little bit too hard not to favour the British fighter and complete incompetence on the part of Eugenie Williams. Last night, I don't know. It was an unusual fight, and maybe hard to score, but it just seems to happen too often to Sauerland boxers on their own(ish) patch. Throw Don King into the Valuev camp and, well.. you do have to wonder. Amazingly enough, he just happened to be Holyfield's promoter in first Lewis fight as well.

I agree something needs to be done, but there are huge problems. Firstly you would need either just one sanctioning body, or a regulator with overall authority over all of them and , great as that would be, I can't see it happening anytime soon. Secondly you need to consider very carefully exactly what procedures you have and when they apply. Split decisions and the odd UD that many think should have gone the 'other way' are not uncommon and being on the wrong end is part of the game. You can't have every fight that doesn't end in either a KO or a comprehensive UD going to some sort of appeal system, with the fans not knowing who would ultimately win. They wouldn't stand for it, and rightly so.