what did holyfield actually do to win?

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  • 77Ritchie77
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    #1

    what did holyfield actually do to win?

    i know he looks like his boxing stances are cool
    he ran around and won the first 3 rounds by throwing more than 1 punch per round. but after round 5 what did he do that was so effective, or caused this whole uproar?
    i know valuev ****** and did little more.
    but usually when a fight is considered a robbery the guy who supposedly got robbed did something to deserve to win
    i.e. soto beat the piss out of lorernzo before being DQ'd.
    - people will say pac/jmm was robbed because they both fought so good in the first fight
    holyfield looked like ****
    nobody can watch that fight objectively and say he did anything what so ever to win
  • Mad Classic
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    #2
    It's very simple. Holyfield was making the fight. Engaging. Valuev was not.

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    • S A M U R A I
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      #3
      He did twice as much as that big lump of poo. That's what he did.



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      • !!Captain
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        #4
        Originally posted by 77Ritchie77
        i know he looks like his boxing stances are cool
        he ran around and won the first 3 rounds by throwing more than 1 punch per round. but after round 5 what did he do that was so effective, or caused this whole uproar?
        i know valuev ****** and did little more.
        but usually when a fight is considered a robbery the guy who supposedly got robbed did something to deserve to win
        i.e. soto beat the piss out of lorernzo before being DQ'd.
        - people will say pac/jmm was robbed because they both fought so good in the first fight
        holyfield looked like ****
        nobody can watch that fight objectively and say he did anything what so ever to win
        When a 46 yo fighter is more active than an active champion, he deserves a win. Forget amount of punches, he was more active than Valuev throughout the fight. That should have done it.

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        • Underdog82
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          #5
          It was definitely a ****ty ass fight and both were unimpressive, but the fact remains that Holyfield did more and there is ZERO reason why he should not have won that fight. Valuev showed what a joke he really was.

          And I actually believed Holyfield had no chance. Boy was I wrong on this one.

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          • The Hammer
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            #6
            Originally posted by 77Ritchie77
            i know he looks like his boxing stances are cool
            he ran around and won the first 3 rounds by throwing more than 1 punch per round. but after round 5 what did he do that was so effective, or caused this whole uproar?
            i know valuev ****** and did little more.
            but usually when a fight is considered a robbery the guy who supposedly got robbed did something to deserve to win
            i.e. soto beat the piss out of lorernzo before being DQ'd.
            - people will say pac/jmm was robbed because they both fought so good in the first fight
            holyfield looked like ****
            nobody can watch that fight objectively and say he did anything what so ever to win
            You are correct about this.

            I think Valuev had no enthusiasm for this fight, or else he would have been more aggressive.

            The truth is, neither did very much in the fight.

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              #7
              Holyfield STILL did twice as much as Valuev. The fact that there was very little action is irrelevant. Holyfield did what was needed to be done to beat the giant sloth.

              Valuev did not deserve to win. That's all that matters.



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              • ßringer
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                #8
                He did ten times as much as his opponet did. Therefore, he should've won.

                Neither guy was stellar, let's not distort it. Holyfield threw about what? 8 punches a round? If that? But Valuev did even less. It was Holyfield who deserved the win.

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                • potatoes
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                  #9
                  From what I saw it looked like Holyfield landed the biggest punches and more of them. Apparently the judges didn't see it my way. Nevertheless, the lack of action was disgusting, but they did just enough to avoid being disqualified.

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                  • robjr
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                    #10
                    bait thread.

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