A lot think Holyfield will do it.

**MoneyMay** · 12-20-2008, 12:10 PM

Ya except ya bet on the losing fighter who will lose

**werewolf** · 12-20-2008, 12:15 PM

Says +500 now. That's 5 to 1 odds you get if you bet on Holyfield. On the other hand, if you bet on Valuev, the crooks will only give you 1 to 8 odds. Nice spread. They can't lose.

**Cadillac Man** · 12-20-2008, 12:34 PM

Holyfield has NO CHANCE...First off HE NEEDS to get a KO cuz he ain't getting a dec over there and we all know he an't getting the KO!

**The_Visitation** · 12-20-2008, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by werewolf

Says +500 now. That's 5 to 1 odds you get if you bet on Holyfield. On the other hand, if you bet on Valuev, the crooks will only give you 1 to 8 odds. Nice spread. They can't lose.

Like casino owners bookies are businessmen, not gamblers. It's the punters who 'win' or 'lose', not the bookies.

**Ian_ST24i** · 12-20-2008, 01:12 PM

I'd love Holy to do it, then hopefully he'd retire. Holy at his peak would've dealt with Valuev the same way he did Foreman - feel him out first few rounds when he was at his most dangerous, then when he started to slow/tire, he moved in and out quicky with his combos.

Holy ain't capable of that now. I fear the worst.

**rj_ct** · 12-20-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by FenceMan

Odds went from +600 yesterday to +450 today.

I layed $50 on Holy to win at +600 and $50 on Holy to win by decision at +1200, seems like free money to me....

i've been ******** for a few years now. i've lost a lot of money over those few years. i'm actually about even on the year thanks to the new york giants.

all i'll say about that line is this: there's a reason why those odds are so stacked in your favor.

**werewolf** · 12-20-2008, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by The_Visitation

Like casino owners bookies are businessmen, not gamblers. It's the punters who 'win' or 'lose', not the bookies.

Exactly.

**Underdog82** · 12-20-2008, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by FenceMan

Odds went from +600 yesterday to +450 today.

I layed $50 on Holy to win at +600 and $50 on Holy to win by decision at +1200, seems like free money to me....

I think you are delusional.

**Dynamite Kid** · 12-20-2008, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by FenceMan

Odds went from +600 yesterday to +450 today.

I layed $50 on Holy to win at +600 and $50 on Holy to win by decision at +1200, seems like free money to me....

You son are crazy then.

Holyfield has less chance than Jones did against Calzaghe.

A lot think Holyfield will do it.