Joe Calzaghe is #1 P4P and not Manny Pac; here is why?

[badboypeenoy]

There was a point to the length and if you want, you can look through my previous posts to figure out why I would do such a thing...or, you can reread the first portion...that is your hint...or, I could just tell you.

Post reply.

"So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two."

My bad...i was caught starting to read after those sentences.

[blacksocks]

With your no excuses logic, Sinsurat-whatever and Torrecampo are better boxers than Pacquiao!

In the same token, all current undefeated boxers are better than Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Ali, etc.

Your logic makes you dumb.

[Benny Leonard]

With your no excuses logic, Sinsurat-whatever and Torrecampo are better boxers than Pacquiao!

In the same token, all current undefeated boxers are better than Robinson, Armstrong, Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Ali, etc.

Your logic makes you dumb.

So you are saying I shouldn't stick with the "NO EXCUSES" logic and people that use it are "dumb"?

[Benny Leonard]

I'll start to break it down...but just "start"

Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "Charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

That's the first part of the thread.

If anybody has ever read my past posts they would have noticed the same boy I mentioned that was curious to ask "why" was the same poster that posted on the sites until, well, now...now that I have saw the light and found the new religion of "No excuses."

Let's break down the next big three:
Charlie horses: they hurt like a *****. For me, I wanted to know why they hurt and what caused them to hurt and how in the future I could prevent them. Now, would I be able to do this with "No excuses" logic. A belief system that doesn't ask "why" or use reason or research?

Well, when I talk to these “certain” posters that is how I feel sometimes:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....WTF.......The pain. In this case the pain is in my head, not in my leg. But at least I get to laugh at this because it becomes funny. Sitting with Popcorn and enjoying the show isn't a bad way to kill a couple of hours as long as I don't become addicted and stay to long and get my other work done...which will lead us to...

Morning...Coke...and Vodka: Besides the fact I never used *******, what does each one represent?
Morning: New Day; New Light; New energy (for most since there are others that are night-people).
*******: energy, but only lasts a very short time. It is addictive and expensive and kills the brain cells. In the End, if you use it too much, you can become poor and your life can be ruined.
Vodka: makes the blood feel warm; helps you feel relaxed in small quan******...but clouds the vision and brain. Can destroy the Body and the Mind in large portions and in long use. Looks like water, but doesn't taste and isn't good for you like water. Fogs the mind.

So now you have opposites being mixed in the cup to start your day off.

We also had:
Watermelon and the anus: Watermelon goes right through you just like logic does to these "certain" posters. Plus, were talking about the anus here and what comes out of the anus? ****...usually compact...but in this case, Watermelon out the anus is liquidity. Piss instead of **** out the anus...it just doesn't make sense. Anus..."No excuses"...prodcues what?



OK....the rest is yours right now.

[BKM-]

Benny Leonard is like a more witty version of Brassangel. I like both fellas.

[S A M U R A I]

Benny is a smart man.

PS: Benny, I'll reply to your PM later, I'm currently in pain and can only type with one hand. The last few posts I made almost KO'd me!



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[badboypeenoy]

Benny is a smart man.

PS: Benny, I'll reply to your PM later, I'm currently in pain and can only type with one hand. The last few posts I made almost KO'd me!

Aha! What are you holding with the other hand?!

[Nabil El Zhar]

I would not even put him in the top 5 p4p's. i don;t rate him AT ALL because he has done FUCK ALL

[Fighting Pride]

I think you need to tell this to a blind person. There is a reason calzaghe is Scrutinized and ridiculed, its because god gave some of us sence. Only a deluded person will tell you Calzaghe is a ATG of no 1 p4p. Beating unproven and old shot fighters basically sums up joe c resume, not ONE career defining fight to talk of.

This is a joke/bait thread, incase you didn't notice. Maybe you're a little blind.

Calzaghe's had 2 career defining fights against Lacy and Kessler. Against Lacy he proved almost everyone wrong with one of the greatest performances in British boxing history. Against Kessler he confirmed his greatness and proved not only was he the best Super-Middle of his generation, he could whoop the best of the next gen. If you don't think much of those highly impressive victories, that's your problem.

Under your criteria these are a list of guys off the top of my head that aren't ATGs:

Kostya Tszyu (Judah was unproven & turned out to be just a level above gatekeeper, Chavez was ancient, Mitchell was an average champ)
Aaron Pryor (Cervantes was past it, Arguello was a Lightweight and old)
Larry Holmes (Norton and Shavers were old, Ali was completely shot, L.Spinks and Cooney were nothing special)
Rocky Marciano (Louis was shot, Walcott & Charles were old, Archie Moore was a Light Heavy)
Mike Tyson (Spinks was old and ok he beat an old Holmes and Cooney but he was a LHW, Holmes was shot)
& Calzaghe (Eubank & Hopkins were old, Jones was shot, Kessler was unproven, Lacy was unproven and turned out to be an average fighter)

I personally consider all ATGs taking into account how dominant they were in the ring and over their division in their primes and the obvious skill they showed. But under your logic they're not. Which shows how ****** your logic is.


As for this thread, it's ridiculous. But I guess it was supposed to be. Pacquiao is now easily #1 after his dominant win over DLH, no question. If he had lost Joe might've had a case.

[S A M U R A I]

Aha! What are you holding with the other hand?!

Your mama.

Nah, I don't disrespect people's mothers.

That was funny man, I wasn't expecting that (I have a clean mind!).

I got an arm injury, either a torn tendon or muscle. Something like that.



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