PACFANS:Name all the GREAT PRIME FIGHTERS manny has defeated Convincingly!!

[goblin]

Did Morales failed at 135 that's why he go back to 130?. He's 28 years old back then. Did Raheem gave him a beating? It was a very close decision.. I'll ask you again, was Pac already Prime and reach his full potential when he made Morales quit like a douchebag?. Did the rematch happened in the same year? Answer my question..

Floyd is gay though.

WELL unlike u who just dodged my question by talkin about age and ****..i wont dodge your question no pac was NOT FULL potential..however..manny used that gloves bull**** as an excuse and when he fought the rematch: a CLEARLY WORSE CONDITIONED MORALES he was STILL LOSING ON ALL FOUR JUDGES SCORECARDS..did u see the shape he was in??? and who the hell manny has beaten while he was in his full potential? he got an asskicking by marquez and beat diaz who already got a gift against morales at 135..the only damn thing manny really acclompishment was beating a depleted hoya man thats it..

[goblin]

now if u wanna continue this tomorrow AND IM DAMN SURE U DO we can do this tommorow..its 1:40 am here.. and im tired.. so if u wanna get the last word in and say something like" hahahaha u givin up" or something BY ALL MEANS GO AHEAD..i'll be back tomorrow cause to be honest i havent even gotten STARTED with all you pacfans..goblin needs his sleep in his goblin kingdom and i will come back to the scene tomorrow and we will continue this tomorrow.. i hope that u pacfans are ready cause the goblin [protector of the alliance] is gonna come FULL FORCE...good night pacfans..............

[BennyST]

You mean a 2 point decision win from Morales wherein Pacquiao wasn't even reach his prime and full potential?

Floyd I retired again. I ran like a Coward against oscar and Hatton.

Pac hadn't reached his prime yet when he fought Morales? So, when will his prime be? In another five years? Don't be a fool man, he reached his peak years ago and is slowly improving on some things while slowing down on others. His last fight with Morales was only two years ago. Pac reached his peak around five years ago when he was fighting Barrera and Marquez for the first time. He is still in his peak and improving on things, but he was most definitely in his prime then, arguably more so than now, but that will wait until we see how he does in the future few fights.

Anyway, what's this Floyd ran like a coward against Oscar and Hatton? Did you watch those fights man? 'Cause I seem to remember Mayweather beating Hatton at Hatton's own game which is to fight on the inside. There wasn't much running at all and it also ended with Hatton on his back. Not really what you would call running is it?

Edit: ...and no, Morales vs Raheem was not a close decision at all. Even though one card had it only a two point fight it was a landslide for Raheem as suggested by the other cards like the 110-118 etc. It was not a close fight, sadly for Morales.

[nujabes77]

he started to peak in the diaz fight, i think the moving up in weight and gaining experience from fighting the 3 mexican legends have something to do with it

[Fox McCloud]

Barrera I is about as good of a win as you can get honestly...

I can't think of any win by any active fighter that has less legit excuses attached to it. It's one of those fights that is just one in a million where a heavy underdog completely torched one of the best in the sport, while he is still in his prime, at his natural weight class, and has been winning convincingly against everyone.

He had just beaten like 3 guys who had ABC belts, but Barrera was either stripped or they were stripped before they fought Barrera. He went on to accomplish big things after the loss, and had accomplished a lot before the loss too. He was not having weight trouble either.

[nujabes77]

most of pacmans opponents are favourited as well, just shows you the competition he's been in

[Fox McCloud]

most of pacmans opponents are favourited as well, just shows you the competition he's been in

Other than Ledwaba, Barrera I and De La Hoya, who has he been an underdog against?

I'm sure you can rattle off some flyweights, which is probably true, but... really... recently, he has been favored against about everyone.

Although, now that I think about it... completely dominating a fighter you are a heavy underdog against is pretty damn impressive, and doing it three times is unreal.

[nujabes77]

Other than Ledwaba, Barrera I and De La Hoya, who has he been an underdog against?

I'm sure you can rattle off some flyweights, which is probably true, but... really... recently, he has been favored against about everyone.

Although, now that I think about it... completely dominating a fighter you are a heavy underdog against is pretty damn impressive, and doing it three times is unreal.

indeed, people overlook this aspect about his career too. defying the odds is great but the way he does it, its a thing of beauty


if manny hadn't face oscar and fought hatton instead, i'd believe he would've been the underdog as well

[Fox McCloud]

indeed, people overlook this aspect about his career too. defying the odds is great but the way he does it, its a thing of beauty


if manny hadn't face oscar and fought hatton instead, i'd believe he would've been the underdog as well

That's true...

Although at this point... he will either be favored or will lose any of his remaining fights.

He should be favored against everyone he faces, but if he does face someone he is an underdog against, it will likely be a middleweight, that will just kill him.

[nujabes77]

maybe he could compete againts mw but not with the best of that division unless he ko's both hatton and mayweather, HAHA. but yeah he actually sparred with rashad hollaway a light heavy for the fight against oscar. roach said he spars well wtih big guys but then thats only sparring. you never know thou, we are yet to see his limits