Who will be the next Great Black Hope after Haye?

[The Hammer]

If I considered myself Chinese it wouldn't make me Chinese.

Some of the whitest white people I have ever seen where ***ish. They are definitely white. I don't care what the **** they "claim" themselves as.

I agree. Most are white, even though they may not consider themselves to be white.

[Allucard]

That is true - and likewise all these hateful moronic illiterate threads you see on these boxing forums are written by White kids.

This being one of them and you being one of those kids you refer to. You are probably a Tunney's alt. Prolly live in Zimbabwe or something. Allot of white folks here, only a couple act as if you were oppressed, always hating on the brothers... It's crazy what u guys come up with... A rant like that always brings me back to the white kid rapping about having no parking slot. :S

[pistol whip]

Hey remember when Bernard Hopkins said to Joe C "I would never lose to a whiteboy".

You know what all the sport writers and trainers did when he said that? They laughed at how ****** that comment was and Bernard looked like fool on national TV. One of the people that was laughing at Bernard was in fact Manny Stewart.

Boxing is beyond race my friends but nationality now thats a whole diffrent story.

[Derranged]

This is ******, stop with the racist ****. And if anything, Haye is more of a British hope, that is who he is getting the most support from.


But to answer your question, for a HW, I dont know.....

[Allucard]

The great white hope was always a farce anyway. I remember severely whooping the **** out of a black kid in high school (yeah yeah, Internet tough talk. But its true. I don't care if you believe me, Ive been in a lot of fights btw, hence why I like boxing.) I remember I was kicking him in the face on the ground thinking. "Hey these blacks aren't that tough. What a load of bull****."

Total media propaganda. There is always someone out there who can whoop your ass and race has nothing to do with it.

The biggest difference in my view and this is funny is: It only takes a very small group of black people to scare the **** out of a racist prick. A single black can stand and be around an hundred of white supremacists and won't drop a sweat. Think about it. That's why that in less than 500 years we went from being ****** to the whites to having the first black president, he won on his first try thanks also to allot of white folks who aren't as prejudiced as NBS Tunney's crew are and voted *****. Another example is the F1 racing, until very recently it was thought by many white supremacists to be a white only sport... Wrong again, in 2 years Lewis Hamilton placed 2nd and won the championship in his SECOND TRY becoming the youngest F1 champion EVER! Do you see any black claiming racial supremacy? No! The right wing media tries to hide Lewis showing him with his helmet on and neglecting him to the last in the news and no interviews were showed but he is the youngest ever F1 champion and he did it at the second try, something NO ONE else could do in the almost 100 years of the sport.
Another interesting point is the starting of world wars. White supremacists really lead this having started 2 world wars and selling weapons to support the remaining ones.
Add to that the fact the white race is the least threatened of all and white supremacists are really looking more ****** by the day. Change didn't come with *****, change comes everyday and if you look at movies it clearly shows this. In the 80's some stuff like the black sidekick sacrificing himself to save his white companion was seen as ok and people in general didn't even ask any questions.. In the 90 this would still happened but it was left uncommented. In the 00's we assumed a more leading role in movies as well. I picked up the movies because they are an excellent mirror of the society Some people were left behind with their old beliefs and some even managed to pass on hatred to their sons but in general if you ask a normal 14 year old white kid to see lethal weapon (1987) he will notice something the kids from that generation didn't notice. Normal educated black kids won't bare to it. And lethal weapon is not a very good example. But you can see some funny stuff like Denny Glover taking much interest in the not so interesting Gibson life. Seen today it's funny and kinda makes Danny look like a kid in comparison to Mel. Compare that to Will Smith playing Han****.

[Boxingwizard]

Since when was Haye even considered the next black hope? Chad Dawson is a much better boxer than Haye ever will be.

[MikeBrew328]

The great hope is only used in heavyweight division not others weights

Kelly Pavlik ring a bell???

[MikeBrew328]

Hey remember when Bernard Hopkins said to Joe C "I would never lose to a whiteboy".

You know what all the sport writers and trainers did when he said that? They laughed at how ****** that comment was and Bernard looked like fool on national TV. One of the people that was laughing at Bernard was in fact Manny Stewart.

Boxing is beyond race my friends but nationality now thats a whole diffrent story.

Turn it around. What if Joe Calzaghe came out and said, "I would never lose to a colored!!"....He would be fined, lose all of his deals with HBO, etc. Also, he would alienate himself from the majority of the white people! For Bernard though, its JUST PROMOTION!!

The biggest difference in my view and this is funny is: It only takes a very small group of black people to scare the **** out of a racist prick. A single black can stand and be around an hundred of white supremacists and won't drop a sweat. Think about it. That's why that in less than 500 years we went from being ****** to the whites to having the first black president, he won on his first try thanks also to allot of white folks who aren't as prejudiced as NBS Tunney's crew are and voted *****. Another example is the F1 racing, until very recently it was thought by many white supremacists to be a white only sport... Wrong again, in 2 years Lewis Hamilton placed 2nd and won the championship in his SECOND TRY becoming the youngest F1 champion EVER! Do you see any black claiming racial supremacy? No! The right wing media tries to hide Lewis showing him with his helmet on and neglecting him to the last in the news and no interviews were showed but he is the youngest ever F1 champion and he did it at the second try, something NO ONE else could do in the almost 100 years of the sport.
Another interesting point is the starting of world wars. White supremacists really lead this having started 2 world wars and selling weapons to support the remaining ones.
Add to that the fact the white race is the least threatened of all and white supremacists are really looking more ****** by the day. Change didn't come with *****, change comes everyday and if you look at movies it clearly shows this. In the 80's some stuff like the black sidekick sacrificing himself to save his white companion was seen as ok and people in general didn't even ask any questions.. In the 90 this would still happened but it was left uncommented. In the 00's we assumed a more leading role in movies as well. I picked up the movies because they are an excellent mirror of the society Some people were left behind with their old beliefs and some even managed to pass on hatred to their sons but in general if you ask a normal 14 year old white kid to see lethal weapon (1987) he will notice something the kids from that generation didn't notice. Normal educated black kids won't bare to it. And lethal weapon is not a very good example. But you can see some funny stuff like Denny Glover taking much interest in the not so interesting Gibson life. Seen today it's funny and kinda makes Danny look like a kid in comparison to Mel. Compare that to Will Smith playing Han****.

While I don't think you should ever try to compare the white supremist regimes of WW2 to the media today, you do have a point. I woke up one morning to the sounds of Fox News one morning. Apparently, a fat, etihw woman was exteremly concerned that Barack ***** was a ****** *********. Now, this was a TAPED recording. Somebody with little knowledge (LIKE A LOT OF AMERICANS) would assume ***** to be an Islamic ********* or something. The right wingers of fox news should be held accountable.

But its not REALLY a racial thing with the movie industry. In the 80's it wasn't either. It was that guys like Danny Glover (who was not widely known at the time of Lethal Weapon), did not go to fancy acting schools and lived in Hollywood. They took a while to work up on the food chain. Look at Denzel.

Peace.

[THE REAL NINJA]

The Soviet fighters weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990's. Now they have turned pro and are already completely dominating the heavyweight division.

[werewolf]

The Soviet fighters weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990's. Now they have turned pro and are already completely dominating the heavyweight division.

Yup. There should be an asterisk next to the names of all the pre-1990's so-called world champions.

Anyway, I was just trying to be helpful. After the latest Great Black Hope, Haye, gets carried out of the ring on a stretcher, all the little boxing forum nitiwts are going to need a new Great Black Hope to jerk off to, and I think they should start preparing in advance. Can I help, offer any suggestions? Rid**** Bowe?