chris eubank(1990) vs calzaghe(2006)

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  • Silencers
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Yeah... had better reflexes than Taylor too and obviously a grannite chin.

    I believe Taylor does actually contdition himself correctly i just think he has bad stamina naturally where as with Eubank it was a case of him not conditioning himself correctly.
    I'm not sure about that, Eubank always looked in tip top shape for his fights and there haven't been many reports of him slacking off in training to my knowledge, I know he had problems with weight, first with making 160 then making 168 which could have contributed somewhat to his low-ish punch output.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Silencers
      I'm not sure about that, Eubank always looked in tip top shape for his fights and there haven't been many reports of him slacking off in training to my knowledge, I know he had problems with weight, first with making 160 then making 168 which could have contributed somewhat to his low-ish punch output.


      Looking ripped counts for nothing though, Eubank looked in tremendous shape for the first Benn fight but he was still struggling to hold onto the body shots.

      Eubank was in better shape for his second fight with Benn and he did not tire at all.

      Im not saying Eubank had great stamina but his stamina was better than Taylor's when he was conditioned properly.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
        Looking ripped counts for nothing though, Eubank looked in tremendous shape for the first Benn fight but he was still struggling to hold onto the body shots.

        Eubank did look inshape for his second fight with Benn and he did not tire at all.

        Im not saying Eubank had great stamina but his stamina was better than Taylor's when he was conditioned properly.
        I know, that's why I said I've never heard him not preparing and conditioning himself well for a fight.

        That could have been because of his weight problems though, he moved up in weight about a year later after the Watson fight, and I've heard he had problems making 160 for a while before the Watson fight so that could explain why his stamina was better against Benn in their second fight which was at 168, and Benn didn't force the fight as much as he did in the first fight so that helped Eubank. I think Eubank, just like Taylor, had naturally bad stamina.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Silencers
          I know, that's why I said I've never heard him not preparing and conditioning himself well for a fight.

          That could have been because of his weight problems though, he moved up in weight about a year later after the Watson fight, and I've heard he had problems making 160 for a while before the Watson fight so that could explain why his stamina was better against Benn in their second fight which was at 168, and Benn didn't force the fight as much as he did in the first fight so that helped Eubank. I think Eubank, just like Taylor, had naturally bad stamina.


          Eubank did have naturally bad stamina but compared to Taylor he had tremendous stamina. Taylor had a 1 flurry against Pavlik and he was virtually done........even against Lacy he was tired and they were fighting at a snails pace.


          i believe Eubank had a lazy attitude and he liked to do things his own way i question his methods and dedication to training.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
            Eubank did have naturally bad stamina but compared to Taylor he had tremendous stamina. Taylor had a 1 flurry against Pavlik and he was virtually done........even against Lacy he was tired and they were fighting at a snails pace.


            i believe Eubank had a lazy attitude and he liked to do things his own way i question his methods and dedication to training.
            Yeah, Taylor seems like a guy who has bad stamina, I don't think he can do much to improve it, he's got a good jab though so that makes things a little easier on him.

            I've heard Eubank was a pretty hard worker in the training.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers
              Yeah, Taylor seems like a guy who has bad stamina, I don't think he can do much to improve it, he's got a good jab though so that makes things a little easier on him.

              I've heard Eubank was a pretty hard worker in the training.
              Agreed

              Yeah you maybe right then, its just when i look at Watson,Benn and then i look at Eubank,Watson and Benn look like far more intense dedicated trainers i know Benn was and i know Watson was pretty diligent trainer himself too.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                Agreed

                Yeah you maybe right then, its just when i look at Watson,Benn and then i look at Eubank,Watson and Benn look like far more intense dedicated trainers i know Benn was and i know Watson was pretty diligent trainer himself too.
                That could just be because of how he acted in public, he had an unique persona in public to say the least.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Silencers
                  That could just be because of how he acted in public, he had an unique persona in public to say the least.
                  Do you honestly think Eubank was as dedicated and trained as intensely as Nigel Benn? Eubank was known to want do things his way and he even parted ways with Ronnie Davis pre Calzaghe to train himself.

                  Did you ever see the documentary with Eubank,Benn it was clalled gladiators ? i think it showed what the difference in character between Eubank and Benn, Benn wanted to get on with it Eubank just wanted to moan and complain about the training etc.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    Do you honestly think Eubank was as dedicated and trained as intensely as Nigel Benn? Eubank was known to want do things his way and he even parted ways with Ronnie Davis pre Calzaghe to train himself.

                    Did you ever see the documentary with Eubank,Benn it was clalled gladiators ? i think it showed what the difference in character between Eubank and Benn, Benn wanted to get on with it Eubank just wanted to moan and complain about the training etc.
                    Benn was an intense individual, I doubt many people trained as intensely as he did, that doesn't mean Eubank didn't work hard in the gym.

                    I saw that, Eubank whining was pretty funny, it's understandable though, I mean he's retired, he may not have wanted to do anything too physical anymore.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Silencers
                      Benn was an intense individual, I doubt many people trained as intensely as he did, that doesn't mean Eubank didn't work hard in the gym.

                      I saw that, Eubank whining was pretty funny, it's understandable though, I mean he's retired, he may not have wanted to do anything too physical anymore.
                      fair enough

                      Did n't it make you feel like Eubank should just STFU and man up

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