How come David haye fights Vitali first and not someone like Arreola or Povetkin

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  • ACHlLLES
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    #21
    Originally posted by Underdog82
    There is no way Arreola beats Haye. Povetkin sure could though and that would be an epic battle. I would much rather see Povetkin fight Haye than Vitali actually.
    Me too, just because I don't exactly know what Vitali has left. Plus, Vitali was great in his prime but he is much older and looked much slower against sam peter then he has when he was younger. I think I'd give haye more credit if he fought someone his own age.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #22
      The Opportunity to fight Vitali is NOW. Vitali is injury prone and 37. Vitali put on a good performance in his last fight so instead of waiting for him to break down again, fight him while he is active and healthy as he can be. If he waits, maybe Vitali decides to retire.

      You have to cease the opportunity at hand.

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        #23
        How do you suppose every heavyweight who has paid his dues and is waiting on line feels about this bull****? Some jerks on the internet can say Haye could beat this guy and that guy but talk is cheap and the reality is that he's never even fought one single top heavyweight in his whole sorry life.

        "Big balls"? Give me a f'ing break. Every heavy from the Golden Gloves on up would love to fight a champ for three million dollars.

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          #24
          Originally posted by CastorTroy
          Me too, just because I don't exactly know what Vitali has left. Plus, Vitali was great in his prime but he is much older and looked much slower against sam peter then he has when he was younger. I think I'd give haye more credit if he fought someone his own age.


          Like Calzaghe when he fought Hopkins?

          Vitali when he fought Lennox?


          Vitali has the title and is recognized as a Champion...so the fight can be made NOW. The younger guys, because they are "younger" can wait until after.

          The opportunity to fight Vitali is now or never.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Benny Leonard
            Like Calzaghe when he fought Hopkins?

            Vitali when he fought Lennox?


            Vitali has the title and is recognized as a Champion...so the fight can be made NOW. The younger guys, because they are "younger" can wait until after.

            The opportunity to fight Vitali is now or never.
            isn't there only a 4 yr age difference between vitali and lewis or less then that? Theres practically a 10 yr age difference between vitali and haye. And while Hopkins is about 8-9 yrs older then Calzaghe. BHOP looked better the older he got since he whooped the likes of fighters like Pavlik, Tarver, late in his career.

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              #26
              Originally posted by werewolf
              How do you suppose every heavyweight who has paid his dues and is waiting on line feels about this bull****? Some jerks on the internet can say Haye could beat this guy and that guy but talk is cheap and the reality is that he's never even fought one single top heavyweight in his whole sorry life.

              "Big balls"? Give me a f'ing break. Every heavy from the Golden Gloves on up would love to fight a champ for three million dollars.
              If Roy Jones Jr. can get a shot at the HW title without fighting a top HW prior; Haye, who was CW Champion, can certainly get it.

              At the end of the day, this is still a business...and, it will draw more attention to the sport than the other HW fighter.

              The HW division doesn't have much depth in fighters and popularity; that is why he is getting away with it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by CastorTroy
                isn't there only a 4 yr age difference between vitali and lewis or less then that? Theres practically a 10 yr age difference between vitali and haye. And while Hopkins is about 8-9 yrs older then Calzaghe. BHOP looked better the older he got since he whooped the likes of fighters like Pavlik, Tarver, late in his career.
                Hopkins was on the decline after Tito. Hopkins wasn't good enough to beat a young athletic fighter like Taylor, was he?
                Pavlik was good, but he was slow, stiff, moves in one straight line, and is predictable.
                Tarver: showed up flat after the weight-loss, just like Jones did for him. Plus, by the time Hopkins got the fight with Tarver, Tarver had been in some bruising fights with Glen Johnson.

                Hopkins was an OLD MAN; bottom line.

                Lewis was 5 or 6 years older than Vitali, I think. And it's the point of where Lewis was at in his career that mattered; along with years of fighting at the top.

                You say Hopkins put on a great performance, well, what did Vitali just do to a younger Sam Peter?

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                  #28
                  "At the end of the day, this is still a business..."


                  Theoretically boxing is supposed to be a legitimate sport, not a "sports entertainment" business like wrestling. Ha ha, but that's supposed to be the theory anyway.

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