You know what's the most annoying thing about the fighters Floyd avoided?

[badboypeenoy]

So you pretend you are objective, know something about boxing, and aren't just a nationalistic nuthugger of Pac, but post stuff like this when people argue your idiocy with logic.

I asked you a simple question which you can't answer, because you are either buried in Pac's nuts, really really ****ing ******, or just a troll: What does excitement have to do with analyzing if Floyd would have won those fights against Marg, Kostya, Williams, Cotto? Do you realize you probably have a learning disability?

Dude, you're the Floyd nuthug here, I haven't even said anything about Pacman in this thread. Mayweather is not an exciting fighter, he runs and clinches a lot, use lots of elbows and forearms...if those are the "skills" you believe will be enough to deter Margarito or Cotto or Williams from unloading on Floyd, that's your opinion. He can't bore those guys to a decision, these guys will actually give him a fight and I don't think he'd win.

[Flawless.]

Lets not forget PACMAN! He came up from 106 - 147, and has actually become MORE exciting!

Manny started at 106 at 16 and Mayweather at 16 was fighting at 106 AT amateurs.

[bsrizpac]

Dude, you're the Floyd nuthug here, I haven't even said anything about Pacman in this thread. Mayweather is not an exciting fighter, he runs and clinches a lot, use lots of elbows and forearms...if those are the "skills" you believe will be enough to deter Margarito or Cotto or Williams from unloading on Floyd, that's your opinion. He can't bore those guys to a decision, these guys will actually give him a fight and I don't think he'd win.

So in your mind Arturo Gatti is the greatest fighter of all time.

LOL@me being a "nuthug". Gotcha. That's why I said Williams would beat him.

And according to you since Floyd isn't exciting he has no skills. Awesome analysis.

[deevel79]

He was moving and countering Oscar. Once he had him hurt in the mid round he started with the 3-4-5s. Floyd never had Oscar hurt like that.

I guess Floyd took it easy against Hatton when he had him hurt too.

Come on man, get a grip.

No. Pac was offensive from the opening bell. As early as the 2nd round, he was landing hard shots on Oscar. He wasnt just waiting to counter. He was bringing the fight TO Oscar.

When Floyd fought Hatton, Floyd didnt become offensive until around the 7th round. Prior to that, all he did was throw 1 punch and hold.

[S A M U R A I]

Interesting thread, but resorting to personal insults weakens some of the arguments here. Shame. I've had enough now, it's like a schoolyard half the time.

"Well **** off and read something else then, *****!"

Yeah, I know.



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[badboypeenoy]

So in your mind Arturo Gatti is the greatest fighter of all time.

LOL@me being a "nuthug". Gotcha. That's why I said Williams would beat him.

And according to you since Floyd isn't exciting he has no skills. Awesome analysis.

Can't blame you if your understanding of simple sentences is moronic I haven't mentioned Gatti, but why not. Gatti was giving his all in every fight, if he had 50% of Floyd's skills, Gatti would have been a great fighter. Gatti went up in weight and never got boring unlike Mayweather, too bad Gatti didn't have the skills to go with his heart. Mayweather had the skills but he's too conscious of letting that aura of invincibility get tainted in my opinion, that's why he became too defensive-oriented. Sort of like, "**** the audience, I'm getting this win whether I look good or not." To bad Mayweather didn't have the heart to go with his skills. I think he can get away doing that with certain fighters but definitely not guys like the big three at welter.

Having Williams winning over Mayweather doesn't prove you're not a nuthug, you're simply stating a fact.

Like I said, Floyd has skills, but he has no heart. His being boring probably stems from that fact, and I believe he loses to someone who has both heart and the skills, even if those skills aren't as good as Floyds.

[bsrizpac]

Can't blame you if your understanding of simple sentences is moronic I haven't mentioned Gatti, but why not. Gatti was giving his all in his everyfight, if he had 50% of Floyd's skills, Gatti would have been a great fighter, he went up in weight and never got boring, too bad he didn't have the skills to go with his heart. Mayweather had the skills but he's too conscious of letting that aura of invincibility get tainted in my opinion, that's why he became too defensive-oriented. Sort of like, "**** the audience, I'm getting this win whether I look good or not." To bad he didn't have the heart to go with his skills. I think he can get away doing that with certain fighters but definitely not guys like the big three at welter.

Having Williams winning over Mayweather doesn't prove you're not a nuthug, your simply stating a fact.

Like I said, Floyd has skills, but he has no heart. His being boring probably stems from that fact, and I believe he loses to someone who has both heart and the skills, even if those skills aren't as good as Floyds.

Please don't try to make fun of my reading comprehension. Your grammar is atrocious. It's really quite bad, so you should just stay away from that one.

So if Floyd fought and beat any of those guys would you shut up? Or still call him a runner? What if he KO's or beats Pac?

[badboypeenoy]

Please don't try to make fun of my reading comprehension. Your grammar is atrocious. It's really quite bad, so you should just stay away from that one.

So if Floyd fought and beat any of those guys would you shut up? Or still call him a runner? What if he KO's or beats Pac?

It's not whether he beats them or not, its how he beats them. He wins over them by decision in a fight where he runs and clinches 75% of the time, he's doesn't get respect. He gets a win, but he's still boring. He wins over Pacman by decision, so what? He's got the tools to do that. Skills, reach advantage. He has to win over Pacman the same way he won over Gatti to earn props, as in it should be a dominating performance, not some lucky-lucky-shot-plus-turnbuckle-slam KO. Don't tell me he can't, Pacman's just a blown-up superfeather.

[bsrizpac]

It's not whether he beats them or not, its how he beats them. He wins over them by decision in a fight where he runs and clinches 75% of the time, he's doesn't get respect. He gets a win, but he's still boring. He wins over Pacman by decision, so what? He's got the tools to do that. Skills, reach advantage. He has to win over Pacman the same way he won over Gatti to earn props, don't tell me he can't, Pacman's just a blown-up superfeather.

Ah okay, got it. So you aren't admiring skills, just how much excitement a fighter brings.

Again I think you should place Gatti as the 1 fighter of all time based on your criteria.

[badboypeenoy]

Ah okay, got it. So you aren't admiring skills, just how much excitement a fighter brings.

Again I think you should place Gatti as the 1 fighter of all time based on your criteria.

It's not whether he beats them or not, its how he beats them. He wins over them by decision in a fight where he runs and clinches 75% of the time, he's doesn't get respect. He gets a win, but he's still boring. He wins over Pacman by decision, so what? He's got the tools to do that. Skills, reach advantage. He has to win over Pacman the same way he won over Gatti to earn props, don't tell me he can't, Pacman's just a blown-up superfeather.

He doesn't even need to be exciting, he just has to do more boxing than running and clinching. I'm sure Mayweather has skills that is enough to do that right?

Gatti's is your posterboy, he's Mayweather's best win right? Can't blame you for feeling gay with the dude.