Has anyone seen Alex Dimitrenko vs. Batchelder or Koval?

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  • BrooklynBomber
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    #11
    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
    From what I've seen from him so far, Dmitrenko is very impressive. But people have told me that Danny Batchelder dropped him twice on body shots but that they were ruled low blows.

    Also Chris Koval was credited a knockdown of him.

    Has anyone seen these fights? Does anyone have them on tape?
    Dmitrenko(not Dimitrenko) is a tall guy who likes to fight on the inside and bodypunching.

    He also gets hit way too much.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SJM122



      Here's the link http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j...tchelder_sport

      Don't know if they show the knockdowns I haven't watched it yet.
      At 12:18 and 13:48, Dimitrenko gets a little hometown help after eating a few too many body shots.

      At 12:18 he clearly goes down, takes a knee and gets a time out to recover. He then brings his elbows in a lot ore and shows signs of a guy hurting to the body.

      At 13:48 it's pretty clear as day, Dimitrenko takes a left hook to the body, winces, turns around away and the ref calls it a kidney punch and deducts a point without a warning for kidney punches.

      I'm surprised because Batchelder is not regarded as a puncher but more of a boxer type.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
        Dmitrenko(not Dimitrenko) is a tall guy who likes to fight on the inside and bodypunching.

        He also gets hit way too much.
        Not good when you're tall, although guys like Rid**** Bowe could get away with it because of their durability. It remains to be seen what Dmitrenko's chin is made of though.

        What I've noticed from studying him is that he's much more emotional than the Klitschkos. The Klitschkos are the most regimented guys in the sport, you can tell they come from a military background.

        Dmitrenko seems more like a cowboy, he likes to throw in exchanges and negate his height and reach. He throws punches fading away sometimes and isn't the most disciplined technically at times.

        My guess is that you'll have to knock him out to beat him, but even that's no small task because he seems like he has a lot of balls.

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          #14
          Dimitrenko was touched too often even in his last win against Krasniqi. He landed a classic bodypunch to end it, but before that Krasniqi was landing his jab and also getting inside to land.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Asian Sensation
            Not good when you're tall, although guys like Rid**** Bowe could get away with it because of their durability. It remains to be seen what Dmitrenko's chin is made of though.

            What I've noticed from studying him is that he's much more emotional than the Klitschkos. The Klitschkos are the most regimented guys in the sport, you can tell they come from a military background.

            Dmitrenko seems more like a cowboy, he likes to throw in exchanges and negate his height and reach. He throws punches fading away sometimes and isn't the most disciplined technically at times.

            My guess is that you'll have to knock him out to beat him, but even that's no small task because he seems like he has a lot of balls.
            That's what I like about him, he is a nasty fighter in the ring and has a mentality of a cobra in there. He is also not scared to mix it with his opponents, which is a rare quality in HW nowdays, Vitali excluded. I actually think that he can present major problems to Wlad next year, after he becomes or is declared his mandatory.

            Funny how people criticize him for being soft and going down twice from brutal body shots, yet never give him credit for coming back and knocking the guy down the very next round. He's got a fighter mentality, I am sure he'll make some major noise in the division.

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              #16
              Originally posted by boxing2005
              That's what I like about him, he is a nasty fighter in the ring and has a mentality of a cobra in there. He is also not scared to mix it with his opponents, which is a rare quality in HW nowdays, Vitali excluded. I actually think that he can present major problems to Wlad next year, after he becomes or is declared his mandatory.

              Funny how people criticize him for being soft and going down twice from brutal body shots, yet never give him credit for coming back and knocking the guy down the very next round. He's got a fighter mentality, I am sure he'll make some major noise in the division.
              I think the criticism is that Batchelder is not regarded as a big puncher. I actually called a recent opponent of Batchelder's up and asked if he could **** and he said, "Hell no."

              Still, it kinda bothers me that a guy has the instinct to petition the referee whenever he gets hurt. What happens when a referee from America comes in and works the fight, he won't have that lifeline. You can become dependent on those kind of things and not develop the proper survival skills.

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                #17
                Originally posted by boxing2005
                That's what I like about him, he is a nasty fighter in the ring and has a mentality of a cobra in there. He is also not scared to mix it with his opponents, which is a rare quality in HW nowdays, Vitali excluded. I actually think that he can present major problems to Wlad next year, after he becomes or is declared his mandatory.

                Funny how people criticize him for being soft and going down twice from brutal body shots, yet never give him credit for coming back and knocking the guy down the very next round. He's got a fighter mentality, I am sure he'll make some major noise in the division.
                Also, who knows, if the referee calls those shots legal knockdowns, perhaps he doesn't make it out of the round to score the knockdown in the next round. He was obviously hurt very badly and when you're hurt to the body it's not nearly as easy to recover as from a head shot.

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                  #18
                  I thought they both were a little low, but even if they were, it doesn't serve Dimetrenko well the way in which he reacted.

                  I need to see more of Dimetrenko to know where to put my money when he fights.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    I think the criticism is that Batchelder is not regarded as a big puncher. I actually called a recent opponent of Batchelder's up and asked if he could **** and he said, "Hell no."

                    Still, it kinda bothers me that a guy has the instinct to petition the referee whenever he gets hurt. What happens when a referee from America comes in and works the fight, he won't have that lifeline. You can become dependent on those kind of things and not develop the proper survival skills.
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    Also, who knows, if the referee calls those shots legal knockdowns, perhaps he doesn't make it out of the round to score the knockdown in the next round. He was obviously hurt very badly and when you're hurt to the body it's not nearly as easy to recover as from a head shot.
                    Granted, the first one was legit KD and nobody can tell what would happen if Dimitrenko didn't have 3 minutes to recover from that. I don't think I saw any petitioning though, Dimitrenko just took the knee. The ref acted a little strange but I didn't see anything unusual in Dimitrenko's behavior. I hope he gets tested to the full extend next year, he's a solid top 10 fighter across the board.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boxing2005
                      Granted, the first one was legit KD and nobody can tell what would happen if Dimitrenko didn't have 3 minutes to recover from that. I don't think I saw any petitioning though, Dimitrenko just took the knee. The ref acted a little strange but I didn't see anything unusual in Dimitrenko's behavior. I hope he gets tested to the full extend next year, he's a solid top 10 fighter across the board.
                      I hear he has a huge test coming in March...

                      And I'm not telling

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