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  • Flawless.
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    #11
    Originally posted by mangler
    Marg wasn't discredited for losin to Pwill til he beat Cotto a year later. And only bias haters wouldn't give him credit for beatin Hatton, even if it was expected. and about this size thing you love to debate so much, I should rephrase what I've said about Pac-PBF and say that win at 140 would mean sumthin for PBF, but not as much as a win over Marg at 147. Everybody but PBF himself is fully confident that he'd thoroughly outbox Marg, so why the **** not do it?
    A win over the P4P best boxer in the world who is the same size as him, he would not get credit. But he must beat a lower ranked P4P boxer who outweighs him by 15 pounds to get credit. Why does Mayweather must beat a WW when he is not a true WW fighter. He is a LW or a Jr WW

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      #12
      Ask you're self this ?

      Originally posted by craftynoob08
      according to what i saw in delahoya-pacquiao fight,the only fighter who can deal wit floyds speed and defense is pacquiao.

      speed + offense = pacquiao

      speed + defense = mayweather

      pacquiao + mayweather = EPIC FIGHT.

      pac vs mayweather is coming.........
      If their all bums why did PBF duckem?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Flawless.
        A win over the P4P best boxer in the world who is the same size as him, he would not get credit. But he must beat a lower ranked P4P boxer who outweighs him by 15 pounds to get credit. Why does Mayweather must beat a WW when he is not a true WW fighter. He is a LW or a Jr WW

        Re-read the post homey. I said he would get credit for beatin Pac, just not as much as beatin Marg. PBF and Marg spent about 2 yrs ranked very closely to each other in the WW ratings. PBF moved up, but was there long enuf to be considered legit at 147. You do realize he won 2 alphabet belts and the linear world title at 147 don't you? He ain't been at 140 since 2005 homey.

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          #14
          Originally posted by mangler
          Re-read the post homey. I said he would get credit for beatin Pac, just not as much as beatin Marg. PBF and Marg spent about 2 yrs ranked very closely to each other in the WW ratings. PBF moved up, but was there long enuf to be considered legit at 147. You do realize he won 2 alphabet belts and the linear world title at 147 don't you? He ain't been at 140 since 2005 homey.
          147 is not Mayweathers best weight, also most of his career was at lower weight than that. I still don’t get it. Mayweather and Manny P same size and Manny P is P4P BEST IN THE GOD DAMN WORLD. He would get more credit beating Pacman since he has better resume than Margarito and same size as Mayweather. Mayweather goal was always a Oscar fight. That why he moved up to 147 always chasing that fight. But Oscar asked for it at 154. Mayweather stated he could make 160 as long as they fought.


          So what Mayweather never been 140 since 2005, he could easily get down to 147. He walks lighter than Hatton.

          Mayweathyer gets more credit beating P4P best boxer in the world than Margarito. Mayweather doesn't won WW divison anything. He is not at his best WW nor his natrual weight as you make it out to be. He wanted Hatton fight at 140 but Hatton camp wanted it at 147 so if Hatton lost he could return to 140 as top dog

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            #15
            If Cotto dealt with Zab's speed.. he can deal with Mayweather's speed. Timing is everything. Can Mayweather deal with Cotto's power is a question.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Flawless.
              147 is not Mayweathers best weight, also most of his career was at lower weight than that. I still don’t get it. Mayweather and Manny P same size and Manny P is P4P BEST IN THE GOD DAMN WORLD. He would get more credit beating Pacman since he has better resume than Margarito and same size as Mayweather. Mayweather goal was always a Oscar fight. That why he moved up to 147 always chasing that fight. But Oscar asked for it at 154. Mayweather stated he could make 160 as long as they fought.


              So what Mayweather never been 140 since 2005, he could easily get down to 147. He walks lighter than Hatton.

              Mayweathyer gets more credit beating P4P best boxer in the world than Margarito. Mayweather doesn't won WW divison anything. He is not at his best WW nor his natrual weight as you make it out to be. He wanted Hatton fight at 140 but Hatton camp wanted it at 147 so if Hatton lost he could return to 140 as top dog
              As much play as this weight thing gets round here, you should know weighin in at the same weight don't make guys the same size. Marg would be bigger than PBF at WW and PBF would be bigger than Pac at 140. I'd have no problem wit a Pac-PBF fight if PBF fought Marg or whoever was on top at WW first. The issue workin against your boy ain't even the scale homey, it's his own words. He said he'd fight Marg eventually and never did. He said his reason for goin back on his word was Arum. Now if he comes back and ignores both Marg and Cotto who were both top challengers to the world title he held to fight a smaller guy who's promoted by the same guy as them is hypocritical bull****. Fight one of those guys, or Clottey, Pwill, or whoever is on top at WW when he comes back, then go after Pac.

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                #17
                Originally posted by mangler
                As much play as this weight thing gets round here, you should know weighin in at the same weight don't make guys the same size. Marg would be bigger than PBF at WW and PBF would be bigger than Pac at 140. I'd have no problem wit a Pac-PBF fight if PBF fought Marg or whoever was on top at WW first. The issue workin against your boy ain't even the scale homey, it's his own words. He said he'd fight Marg eventually and never did. He said his reason for goin back on his word was Arum. Now if he comes back and ignores both Marg and Cotto who were both top challengers to the world title he held to fight a smaller guy who's promoted by the same guy as them is hypocritical bullshit. Fight one of those guys, or Clottey, Pwill, or whoever is on top at WW when he comes back, then go after Pac.
                Mayweather would not outweigh Manny P by 5 pound MAX. Fight night at WW Mayweather is 149 and Manny P is 148. Their is no weight difference at ALL.


                How ironic. Mayweather fighting Pacman, means he beating the smaller guy right, He outweighs Pacman by 1 pounds and has 1 inch advantage in height. While Margarito outweighs Mayweather by 13 pounds and has 4 inch advantage in height but is not fighting the smaller guy in Mayweather. Double standards

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by CottoIsBackBtch
                  If Cotto dealt with Zab's speed.. he can deal with Mayweather's speed. Timing is everything. Can Mayweather deal with Cotto's power is a question.
                  Dealt with his speed, is that reason he had to low blow Judah. After those low blows Zab was finished. Funny how when Mayweather was hurting Judah he got low blow’d not another way around. Mayweather 10x better than Judah. Oscar @ 154 > Cotto 147 punching power

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Flawless.
                    Mayweather would not outweigh Manny P by 5 pound MAX. Fight night at WW Mayweather is 149 and Manny P is 148. Their is no weight difference at ALL.


                    How ironic. Mayweather fighting Pacman, means he beating the smaller guy right, He outweighs Pacman by 1 pounds and has 1 inch advantage in height. While Margarito outweighs Mayweather by 13 pounds and has 4 inch advantage in height but is not fighting the smaller guy in Mayweather. Double standards

                    Did you not read the part of my post where I agreed Marg was bigger than him? Hell hath no fury like a Floydboy offended. Bottom line, PBF has unfinished business at WW and needs to take care of it if he acres at all about bein fully respected and securin his legacy. He didn't mind gettin booed to hell for beatin Baldo the way he did, so why not do it against Marg? If he came back and beat Pac at 140 but still didn't fight Marg at 147 and retired, the haters and the questions are still there. If he fought and beat Marg but retired without fightin Pac, would anybody have a legit complaint about that ****? Hell no. And by the way, I take it you don't love Pwill anymore homey?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mangler
                      Did you not read the part of my post where I agreed Marg was bigger than him? Hell hath no fury like a Floydboy offended. Bottom line, PBF has unfinished business at WW and needs to take care of it if he acres at all about bein fully respected and securin his legacy. He didn't mind gettin booed to hell for beatin Baldo the way he did, so why not do it against Marg? If he came back and beat Pac at 140 but still didn't fight Marg at 147 and retired, the haters and the questions are still there. If he fought and beat Marg but retired without fightin Pac, would anybody have a legit complaint about that ****? Hell no. And by the way, I take it you don't love Pwill anymore homey?

                      Funny, Mayweather must also prove himself at WW. He had proven himself at 130 and 135. Most boxers can’t even do it at one.

                      If Mayweather beat Margarito but not fight Pacman, they would say he ducked Manny and aslo Manny is P4P of the decade, You don't understand how haters work.

                      Mayweather legacy was completed at 130 and 135 beyond that it was all about the money and Oscar fight


                      Manny P is the higher P4P fighter who is the same size as Mayweather. That is a real fight for P4P of the decade. Mayweather does not have to prove himself at WW since that is not his best weight. Pacman is also once in a lifetime fight

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