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  • badboypeenoy
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    #21
    Originally posted by Silencers
    If you think Mayweather would get caught as easily as Ledwaba got caught, you're sorely mistaken. Mayweather is on a while different level and he has proven it against top class opposition, some of whom are much better than Ledwaba pound for pound.
    Honestly dude, as far as power punch connects, do you think Pacman would land more than say, Hatton's 52 power punches in 10 rounds, Dela Hoya's 82 power punches in 12 rounds, Castillo's 101 and 173 power punches in 12 rounds, Gatti's 10 power punches in 6 rounds, Baldomir's 67 power punches in 12 rounds and Judah's 59 connects in 12 rounds?
    Pacman is faster and busier than these guys.

    Pacman's power punch output is quite high 195 against dela Hoya in 8 rounds, Against Diaz 180 in 9 rounds, Against Marquez 100 and 114 in 12, Against Morales 183 in 12 rounds in the first fight and 83 in 3 rounds in the third. Against Solis 109 in 8 rounds, Against Barrera 130 in 11 rounds, and 169 in 12 in the rematch. You can actually see that Pacman's getting busier and busier in the ring.

    On the otherhand, Mayweather isn't that busy a power puncher as he got older. He wasn't able to rain power shots over slowpokes like Baldomir where he only landed 131 powershots in 12 rounds and 100 in 10 rounds on Hatton. Pacman's way faster than these guys.

    By the way, comparing Mayweather to Ledwaba is like comparing Pacquiao to Gatti...not in the same level.

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      #22
      Originally posted by flem1
      Floyd already beat a boxer who is just as fast, or even faster than Pacman.. They guy's name is Zab Judah, a soutpaw like Manny is.


      Zab is faster than Pacman? Really???

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        #23
        Originally posted by badboypeenoy
        Honestly dude, as far as power punch connects, do you think Pacman would land more than say, Hatton's 52 power punches in 10 rounds, Dela Hoya's 82 power punches in 12 rounds, Castillo's 101 and 173 power punches in 12 rounds, Gatti's 10 power punches in 6 rounds, Baldomir's 67 power punches in 12 rounds and Judah's 59 connects in 12 rounds?
        Pacman is faster and busier than these guys.

        Pacman's power punch output is quite high 195 against dela Hoya in 8 rounds, Against Diaz 180 in 9 rounds, Against Marquez 100 and 114 in 12, Against Morales 183 in 12 rounds in the first fight and 83 in 3 rounds in the third. Against Solis 109 in 8 rounds, Against Barrera 130 in 11 rounds, and 169 in 12 in the rematch. You can actually see that Pacman's getting busier and busier in the ring.

        On the otherhand, Mayweather isn't that busy a power puncher as he got older. He wasn't able to rain power shots over slowpokes like Baldomir where he only landed 131 powershots in 12 rounds and 100 in 10 rounds on Hatton. Pacman's way faster than these guys.

        By the way, comparing Mayweather to Ledwaba is like comparing Pacquiao to Gatti...not in the same level.
        I don't know, there's really only one way to find out, Mayweather is a very tough guy to hit clean with power shots, you can maybe find him with your first shot but it's very hard to find him with your second, he can probably outland Baldomir but we won't know until they actually step in the ring, if they ever step into the ring.

        Mayweather is economical, I don't think it's because he's unable, I think it's because he's unwilling to let his hands go against the bigger guys because he didn't want to get countered or caught, he became a much more defensive fighter as he moved up in weight, we could see a much more active Mayweather if they do fight.

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          #24
          ever notice how mayweather and ledwaba are never in the same place at the same time? hmmmmm strange. my belief is floyd mayweather is in fact ledwaba thus manny pac has already ko'd mayweather. case closed.

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            #25
            Originally posted by gopi11
            Zab is faster than Pacman? Really???
            Judah 59 power connects in 12 rounds ... duh, that's Pacman's output in one round.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Silencers
              I don't know, there's really only one way to find out, Mayweather is a very tough guy to hit clean with power shots, you can maybe find him with your first shot but it's very hard to find him with your second, he can probably outland Baldomir but we won't know until they actually step in the ring, if they ever step into the ring.

              Mayweather is economical, I don't think it's because he's unable, I think it's because he's unwilling to let his hands go against the bigger guys because he didn't want to get countered or caught, he became a much more defensive fighter as he moved up in weight, we could see a much more active Mayweather if they do fight.
              Let's just say Castillo who apparently has been the most effective fighter against Mayweather, do you think Pacman will land more shots and attempt more punches than Castillo?

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                #27
                Originally posted by FasTHarD
                It just pop-up into my mind...

                I try to compare Mayweather and Lebwaba i found it out they got almost similar in style...

                If you saw Lebwaba fights before he fought Pacquiao in 2001 he has a very good defence, got good speed, very slick fighter and love to pot his shots... He was actually one of the most feared fighter at 122 that time, even the mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera duck his **** out of him...

                But after Pacquiao demolished him.. So sad he become a bum... Do the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight do the same with Pacman vs Lebwaba?



                Pls help me on this one i can fell it will happen next year..
                no no no no no...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by badboypeenoy
                  Let's just say Castillo who apparently has been the most effective fighter against Mayweather, do you think Pacman will land more shots and attempt more punches than Castillo?
                  That's really hard to say, I seriously doubt it because Mayweather was afflicted with injuries for that fight but with the layoff, you never know.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    I don't think it's because he's unable, I think it's because he's unwilling to let his hands go against the bigger guys because he didn't want to get countered or caught, he became a much more defensive fighter as he moved up in weight, we could see a much more active Mayweather if they do fight.


                    Come to think of it, since his last bout against JMM, Pacman's mentality has changed, defensively. He fights guys his size without caution, he doesn't care if he gets tagged as long as he can get his own licks in. He knows he can take the punches from guys who approximates his size and built, but Pacman is different now. His last two fights against bigger guys can attest to this, he much, much careful now. He makes them miss, and miss by mile. He picks his spots, he's in and out, and he found out that it's much more fun to get some hits in without being hit back, a much better proposition for him. He hasn't lost a round since then, and that's 2 fights and 17 rounds ago.

                    The only difference between Floyd and Pacman is, Pacman didn't forget his offense...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by gopi11
                      Come to think of it, since his last bout against JMM, Pacman's mentality has changed, defensively. He fights guys his size without caution, he doesn't care if he gets tagged as long as he can get his own licks in. He knows he can take the punches from guys who approximates his size and built, but Pacman is different now. His last two fights against bigger guys can attest to this, he much, much careful now. He makes them miss, and miss by mile. He picks his spots, he's in and out, and he found out that it's much more fun to get some hits in without being hit back, a much better proposition for him. He hasn't lost a round since then, and that's 2 fights and 17 rounds ago.

                      The only difference between Floyd and Pacman is, Pacman didn't forget his offense...
                      Pacquiao has added much more movement now to his game, he's become a more defensive fighter now and he's a smarter fighter as well. It's a good tactic against the bigger guys, he's using his best weapon against them, his speed and it's paid off well.

                      Mayweather is a more defensive fighter, Pacquiao has become a better defensive fighter but he's much more aggressive.

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