MAYweather vs PACquaio: BATTLE FOR SUPREMACY !!!

[strugler]

First, Floyd never lost his title in the ring and he could pull an Ali with the promotion. It's not like he has been out 3 years. Hell, Dempsey went something like 3 years without defending his title. What's worse?

Floyd hasn't fought at JrWW since Gatti in '05. And, I thought Roger once said that Floyd at this point couldn't go back down to 140 which is why they made Hatton come to them at 147. Floyd doesn't like to drain weight for fights. At 147, all he has to do is take a piss and he will make weight.

So why make a fighter diet down and drain himself for a weight he hasn't made since '05, especially an inactive fighter in his 30's?
People will be calling it the same strategy as the Oscar fight.

If Pac really wants this fight, weight shouldn't be an issue. He knows where Floyd fights and that is at 147. Fight at 147. Not hard. Don't STEAL a victory.

In the end, you really don't need titles because the names are bigger than the titles at this point. But, the weight issue still stands: Both fought at 147, let them fight there. This way, you have TWO HEALTHY FIGHTERS.

What makes you think Floyd wouldnt be healthy at 140, Hes not even a true welterweight(sizewise i mean) niether is Pac.that never lose at 147 so hes still lineal welterweight champion he better gets it first then he aint lineal to a lot of people(not me) after he retired.He will probably have a tune-up fight before fighting pac so 140 is more than fair too me.

What im saying is you cant argue Floyd is not really a welterweight at the same time say they should fight at 147 cause 140 is too low.

Arum works for Pacquaio... and plus Pacquaio team and lawyer already played thier hand and express that they want mayweather... remember it was pacquaio manager and team who did the Negotiations for the hatton fight and arum was just the middle man. Because if you remember ARUM was trying to get pacquaio to sign a 50/50 split from day 1 but Pacquaio team wasnt going for none of that...
You have to remember all the begging arum was doing to pacquaio to sign the contract before he loses the fight...


so lets all pray once pacquaio beats hatton that once again pacquaio manager and team reaches out to mayweather team and Negotiations can begin.

because believe me I dont think Pacquaio would take a high risk medium reward fight in mosley or cotto..

when he can get a High risk and Higher reward in a fight with Mayweather...

Common sense will they you that.

I agree with everything except the font and if PBF is truly coming back.

[Horus]

What makes you think Floyd wouldnt be healthy at 140, Hes not even a true welterweight(sizewise i mean) niether is Pac.that never lose at 147 so hes still lineal welterweight champion he better gets it first then he aint lineal to a lot of people(not me) after he retired.He will probably have a tune-up fight before fighting pac so 140 is more than fair too me.

What im saying is you cant argue Floyd is not really a welterweight at the same time say they should fight at 147 cause 140 is too low.







I agree with everything except the font and if PBF is truly coming back.

lol
I do the big font just to **** with people..

[S A M U R A I]

I don't read the majority of your posts because of the excessive formatting and fonts. You're alright though, Horus. I just think you should post normally.



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[strugler]

lol
I do the big font just to **** with people..

Use the standard font just like the rest of us, People using excessively bigger fonts usually compensate for the "smaller" things in their life according to studies.

[Horus]

Use the standard font just like the rest of us, People using excessively bigger fonts usually compensate for the "smaller" things in their life according to studies.

enlighten us with these studies

[strugler]

enlighten us with these studies

Shrek 1..........................

[kadyo's]

Use the standard font just like the rest of us, People using excessively bigger fonts usually compensate for the "smaller" things in their life according to studies.

I think I read that research, I think it's in Psychology Today.

[Horus]

Mayweather is a lot more similar in size with Cotto & Mosley.. you get your **** together.
LOL Pacquiao has a 28 inch waist for ****s sake.
I remember I used De La Hoya's measurements to show how both of them weren't that far off and you said that measurements didn't determine size though.. now you using measurements to justify the fight..

Anyway, Manny didn't even spend a year at lightweight and now you want him to move up to 147? Damn, I can't believe you are that pathetic that you have to justify fights with much smaller opponents so that Mayweather doesn't take a risk and fight a real legit threat.

So now you are saying Oscar and Floyd are the same size but when they fought you said that Oscar was the bigger man and Floyd has weak hands so that might make him lose..

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2138299

Since when did I say Oscar was more muscular?? He is naturaly bigger.. Floyd could probably make 135 or so if he wanted to... Oscar walks around 150 to 160 ish. And no I am not basing this fight on the first Castillo fight I'm simply stating that although he may not be as fast he will land his shots.. I have decent boxing knowledge but the way you talk I can tell you pretty much don't know ****. Logic.. okay how is that an answer...wtf?? You well know that Floyd has some weak ass hands and thats the reason he wears Grant or Winning.. The contract states that both will be using Reyes (hmm don't you think he could brake his hands he did hurt it wearing Grant fighting Baldomir).. in a small ring... (Oh yeah That gives Floyd alot of room to "play chess")

I am just amaze at your position today on Floyd and Oscar but Back then Man you were a different poster...

What makes you think that Oscar will have problems with a much smaller opponent than him whos shots won't be ablt to hurt him. This is gonna be Bernard v De La Hoya over again only De La Hoya will be in Bernards position this time..
Floyd wearing Cleto Reyes gloves will hurt his fragile little hands and being that its gonna be a small ring won't have no where to run and will have to stand and trade once Oscar cuts him off..
Lets see who drops the bigger hurt bombs??... Oscar!! He may not be as fast as Mayweather but he is not slow. If Castillo could get his hits in Oscar will be able to also.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2138299

March 2007.. and Floyd last fight was in december 2007

. Floyd could probably make 135 or so if he wanted to... ..

So in 2007 the last year floyd fought... if you thought he could still 135.
but not according to you he cant even make 140...

Get yo **** together hypocrite.

[Benny Leonard]

What makes you think Floyd wouldnt be healthy at 140, Hes not even a true welterweight(sizewise i mean) niether is Pac.that never lose at 147 so hes still lineal welterweight champion he better gets it first then he aint lineal to a lot of people(not me) after he retired.He will probably have a tune-up fight before fighting pac so 140 is more than fair too me.

What im saying is you cant argue Floyd is not really a welterweight at the same time say they should fight at 147 cause 140 is too low.




I agree with everything except the font and if PBF is truly coming back.

Because he is already in his 30's, hasn't fought at 140 since '05, Roger I think already said that Floyd can't go back down to 140 anymore (or at least doesn't want to diet down to make the weight), along with inactivity. It's much easier to just take a piss to lose 1-2 pounds for a weigh-in instead of trying to lose
9(like most do), so why bother?
Fighting at WW allows the fighter to concentrate only on the fight instead of trying to fight the scales as well.
History doesn't favor the move back down. Go ask Freddie.

Why not just make the fight at 147 where both have already fought and won, and you have two healthy fighters (as long as Floyd can still make that weight as well).
Pac has no excuse not to fight at 147 since he "destroyed" Oscar there (like many of his die-hard fans have said).
Not so hard.

The only reason anybody would want to see it at 140 would be to "take something way from Floyd" as Freddie Roach said. What type of person wants this type of win?
I actually don't think Pac would care what weight it is at. Freddie would though.

What im saying is you cant argue Floyd is not really a welterweight at the same time say they should fight at 147 cause 140 is too low

When did I say that?

I said Floyd is a legit WW while the rest of the fighters who cannot make 147 by fight time are not true WW.
If the fighters had to be at 147 by fight-time, how many at WW could make it?
I think Floyd could as long as the numbers are correct that he comes in by fight-time around 149 when he fights at WW.
Unless he is packing on 9 pounds and that is a different story but I never heard that.



Oh, and in one of the interviews, Freddie Roach said weight really doesn't matter to determine who wins, yet at the same time, he would want Floyd to drop down in weight.....for what reason? Go back to the interview.

[gopi11]

Arum works for Pacquaio... and plus Pacquaio team and lawyer already played thier hand and express that they want mayweather... remember it was pacquaio manager and team who did the Negotiations for the hatton fight and arum was just the middle man. Because if you remember ARUM was trying to get pacquaio to sign a 50/50 split from day 1 but Pacquaio team wasnt going for none of that...
You have to remember all the begging arum was doing to pacquaio to sign the contract before he loses the fight...


so lets all pray once pacquaio beats hatton that once again pacquaio manager and team reaches out to mayweather team and Negotiations can begin.

because believe me I dont think Pacquaio would take a high risk medium reward fight in mosley or cotto..

when he can get a High risk and Higher reward in a fight with Mayweather...

Common sense will they you that.

Horus, you got mad skillz in pimping your post, I give you that,
but can you at least spell Pacman's name right? It's...



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