How much of a factor will ****m be in Shane vs Margarito

[egreezy]

Having ****m will make a big difference because you need a great plan to beat Margarito, but in order for him to execute he has to return to his form against Cotto. His performance against Mayorga would have had to been about weight and motivation if he can turn it around next time out. Its possible he over-trained since he was going to fight Judah in May.

[Eaner0919]

Without ****m I seriously doubt Hopkins performances against Trinidad, Tarver and Pavlik wouldn't be AS great. His wins wouldn't have been as dominate with out ****m. For me he IS THE BEST trainer in the game......

1. ****m
2. Floyd Sr.
3. Roach

but here is the thing

I think ****m is a good solid trainer who else has he trained? I know he has Rock Allen but I am not sure he has other fighters that we can really assess whether it's him or Hopkins that makes the tandem truely great

also lets not forget he is gameplanning Hopkins and not Mosley in all those wins and we all know Hopkins is one of the smartest fighters to lace them up.

Mosley has never been labeled a smart fighter. I got to believe once things don't go to plan he will revert back to being the same fighter.

and to boot Mosley does not look as good when he does not have his father guiding him. Granted Jack really has never been a tactician in the corner but Shane looks relaxed and at ease

[MELLY-MEL...]

****m is good, but he is not the best trainer in the sport by any means. bernard had much more to do with the plan, and it's execution vs pavlik than ****m!

[freedom213]

Having ****m will make a big difference because you need a great plan to beat Margarito, but in order for him to execute he has to return to his form against Cotto. His performance against Mayorga would have had to been about weight and motivation if he can turn it around next time out. Its possible he over-trained since he was going to fight Judah in May.

I agree in essence with your post. Nazeem and Hopkins knew exactly how to handle Pavlik, who is a come forward non stop punching machine. Only difference between him and Tony is Pavlik has a far better jab and straight right but Tony has a far better inside game. Neither one of them do well against fighters who can turn them and jab with them.

Mosley recently made two very pertinent statements which I think will be factors in this fight: He mentioned having a thicker coat and ability to take punishment then Cotto he will need it and Margarito may find it strange when he runs into someone that is as difficult to hurt as he is. The second comment was about fighting big guys, Winky, VArgas, Mayorga, Forrest all are hard punchers and as Shane said Margarito will be one of the smaller guys he has fought in a while.

Lots of people talking about Shane may now be shot but I tell you what after the Cotto Margarito fight the guy I would be worrying about is Margarito. Although victorious his melon was beaten furiously and he looked deformed as hell after the fight. With any boxer, Shane or Margarito, age and the damage received over a career will at some point catch up. Both guys have taken many punches.

[Pullcounter]

I have mad respect for ****m Richardson and Feel he one of the top three trainers in the game and THE BEST Tactician and game planner. I also feel that if anyone is going to set up an effective game plan against Margarito, it's going to be ****m. As Margarito fan I have a little fear in me......what do you guys think, how much of a factor will he be?

****m will be a hero if he can convince shane to box... if shane goes toe to toe its over for him.