I Think Pacquiao's Prime is Now!

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  • miron_lang
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    #21
    Originally posted by Silencers
    Marquez just has his number, like Norton with Ali or Hearns with Leonard, certain fighters just have another fighters' number.
    Originally posted by Silencers
    Both fights were close and controversial, JMM just has his number, there's really no way around that, they can fight for as many times as they like and the end result would be the same, close controversial decision.

    Im not arguing that. Its controversial yes but we both agree that JMM has PAC's number right?

    and JMM officially manages only a Draw and a Loss. PAC has Barrera's number and look what he did to him.

    The point JMM winning fight one is How to score A ROUND/Fight w/c is subjective. while the point for pac IS TECHINCAL. 3 KD is 4 points.

    PAC is beyond the 3 musketeers.

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    • lefthook2daliva
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      #22
      Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
      I don't think Pacquiao was prime when he fought Barrera, Marqez and Morales.

      Although Pac beat and KO them, Pac's style was just 1-2 Straight Left going foward all the time.. He is not Patient and his style is repeatitive.

      Lately, his head movement, footwork is amazing.. He moves side to side from angles.. He was very patient against Oscar and didn't rush out.. he throwed Right Hook against Oscar and he was this 4-5 combination from first step.

      Against Oscar, Manny never stayed on the ropes and inside Oscar, he's moving very well around the ring..

      I think due to dedication to his craft, Manny's prime will extend longer than most. He does seem to continue to improve fight to fight. Who knows? Is it now? How do you define "prime"?

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      • Silencers
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        #23
        Originally posted by miron_lang
        Im not arguing that. Its controversial yes but we both agree that JMM has PAC's number right?

        and JMM officially manages only a Draw and a Loss. PAC has Barrera's number and look what he did to him.

        The point JMM winning fight one is How to score A ROUND/Fight w/c is subjective. while the point for pac IS TECHINCAL. 3 KD is 4 points.

        PAC is beyond the 3 musketeers.
        When a fighter has another fighters' number, it doesn't necessarily mean he has to win every time out, I mean Norton is 1-2 against Ali, some argue that he's 2-1 or even 3-0, Hearns had Leonard number but he only has a 0-1-1 record against Leonard, most people believe it should be 1-1, the point is JMM will always make Pacquiao look bad, will always make a fight between them close and controversial, yes, he 0-1-1 against Pacquiao but he could arguably 2-0 against him.

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        • miron_lang
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          #24
          Originally posted by Silencers
          the point is JMM will always make Pacquiao look bad, .

          Noted. ....

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            #25
            Pac was weight drained when he fought JMM at 130. He was supposed to fight diaz @ 135 but since JMM has the belt at 130 he drained himself so he can fight for the belt.

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            • wakwak
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              #26
              Originally posted by Silencers
              When a fighter has another fighters' number, it doesn't necessarily mean he has to win every time out, I mean Norton is 1-2 against Ali, some argue that he's 2-1 or even 3-0, Hearns had Leonard number but he only has a 0-1-1 record against Leonard, most people believe it should be 1-1, the point is JMM will always make Pacquiao look bad, will always make a fight between them close and controversial, yes, he 0-1-1 against Pacquiao but he could arguably 2-0 against him.
              Yes, JMM has pac's number but even when he took advantage of that he still didn't win. It's like playing a video game using cheats that give you advantage but still failing to finish the game, and pac could arguably be 2-0 against JMM too.

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              • Silencers
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                #27
                Originally posted by wakwak
                Yes, JMM has pac's number but even when he took advantage of that he still didn't win. It's like playing a video game using cheats that give you advantage but still failing to finish the game, and pac could arguably be 2-0 against JMM too.
                It's not really an advantage, they both match up very well, JMM is just the guy who makes Pacquiao look horrible, it's not like Marquez is cheating.

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                • JOM'S
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                  #28
                  how many fights do you think PAC still has in the tank and at full speed? at least 2 years more

                  do you believe he will retire 2009? hope not or that will be a waste of one's prime and a lot of $$$

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