Pacquiao owns 3 unexpected no mas' againts hofamers

[BennyST]

Assumptions for who beats who, "prime for prime" are way too ****ing annoying and overused.

Indeed they are. Way too many possibilities, and what one person thinks of as prime, is clearly not someone else' understanding of prime, as evidenced by the previous conversations.

[FasTHarD]

i'm asking how old are you? That's all i want to know.

12?...............

[MakeDamnSure]

Yes, that's quite possible. I can't decide whether his best fighting was when he was first fighting those guys mentioned in this thread or if it is now, after he has finally learned a bit of patience and boxing skill. He is using much better movement and his right hand is much better than it has ever been, but he has also lost some of his insane aggression and non stop come-at-you-constantly type fighting, which could work two ways. Against the bigger guys it might work for him in that he doesn't leave himself open as badly, or it might work against him in that he can get out-boxed by a better boxer without them having to watch out for his craziness for twelve hard rounds, the way Barerra did in the first fight.

I remember Marquez saying that the first fight he had with Pac was much harder and that the second fight he wasn't as aggressive and wild.

Watch all Pacquiao's fight from 122 and blow and all he do is 1-2 jab straight left.. Although it was effective against Mab because Pac was fast..

Now he uses triple jab, left straight then he moves side to side from all angles.. Against Mab and EM 1, Pac didn't make adjustments and was a coming forward fighter.. Now he is very patient and makes the right timing before throwing combinations..

[BennyST]

Watch all Pacquiao's fight from 122 and blow and all he do is 1-2 jab straight left.. Although it was effective against Mab because Pac was fast..

Now he uses triple jab, left straight then he moves side to side from all angles.. Against Mab and EM 1, Pac didn't make adjustments and was a coming forward fighter.. Now he is very patient and makes the right timing before throwing combinations..

Yes, I understand what you mean. The thing I'm trying to get at though, is that Pac won those fights through his crazy aggression, not his boxing skill. I would wager that Morales would have had an easier time of this Pac than the one that he fought.

[BennyST]

12?...............

Well done mate.

[MakeDamnSure]

Yes, I understand what you mean. The thing I'm trying to get at though, is that Pac won those fights through his crazy aggression, not his boxing skill. I would wager that Morales would have had an easier time of this Pac than the one that he fought.

We have our own opinions but I think Pacquiao now can still KO Morales and Barrera.. Pac will move a lot from all angles and he will used his head movement more so he won't get hit that much.... The Marquez fight would still be close IMO.

[kadyo's]

Yes, I know that's what you're asking. I'm asking what you want to know for. It's an odd question to ask on a forum, usually meant as an underhanded insult to said persons intellect. What difference would it make if I was forty or twenty five? It doesn't make any difference.

I didn't mean to insult you, I just want to know how old are you.

Honest...

[Alibata]

and the biggest most recent improvement and difference just emerging againts Diaz and witnessed in a much improved way Against DLH. The one issue that was exposed in Morlaes 1&2 and Marquez 1&2, HE CAN NOW FIGHT WELL BACKING UP!!! That improvement alone makes a huge difference. He don't get stuck on the ropes no more.

[BennyST]

I didn't mean to insult you, I just want to know how old are you.

Honest...

The latter.

[kadyo's]

The latter.

I'm 3 years older than the former.