pacs in deep sh@##@

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Dude, have you seen Juan Manuel/ Rafael Marquez fight? They are exellent counter punchers (JMM more). They are a combination of both, old and new school, and nacho teached them that. Lets stop ****ting the trainners, De La Hoya was done.

TRUE. what im trynna say is mayweathers style is more advanced defense and techniques..not that their better then nacho or dundee..just 2 different styles and both great and the best in what they do..and yes i also agree that its not the trainers, de la hoya is just shot...