"Nothing left to prove" - Joe Calzaghe

[larryx]

Ring magazine says otherwise.

joe has no world titles and fought 2 40 year olds at lightheavy...dawsons been cleaning out the division..you cant fight 2 fights in a division and be the best..

[The_Visitation]

(ballooning him up the ranks for win over 40 year olds who had no tittles whatsoever and avoiding the champion, Dawson in the process).

Can you explain exactly how you think Calzaghe 'avoided' Dawson? I know, like the thread starter, you like to invent boxing history rather than study it, but lets look at the facts.

Dawson became a serious potential candidate for a fight with JC in October 2008 , after beating Tarver. Clazaghe was already commited to fight RJj shortly afterwards. You might concievably make a case for one fight earlier, in April 2008 when he beat Johnson. Calzaghe was fighting B-Hop (you know, the guy who was, and still is top 5 p4p, was 2nd in the division and a boxing legend) at much the same time. Before that Dawson was just another alphabelt holder.

So, for the benefit of those who still don't get it, Calzaghe has never ducked Dawson because he has never had the opportunity to duck Dawson. Retiring (if he does) is not ducking. For fighters in Calzaghe's position there is always 'a' Dawson, and if he fought and beat Chad there would be somebody else. And somebody else. And somebody else. The smart guys know when to get out, when you have enough money, when the hunger isn't quite there, or when you start to slow and tire. We could all provide a very long list of elite fighters who weren't smart when the time came... and that includes perhaps the greatest of them all.

The really sad thing is that you jokers can't even understand your own hypocrisy. Say Dawson and Calzaghe fought next year. Dawson would be 26, Calzaghe 38. Is that a 'prime' Calzaghe or a 'shot' one; an 'old man' at the end of his career? Would would such a win do for Dawson's 'legacy'?

Both are great fighters. They might yet meet, but Dawson will make his name (or not) against a new generation, not Calzaghe, Johnson or Tarver. That's just the way it is. Now grow up, quit the ignorant bullcr*p, throw away the hate-tinted dumbass spectacles and give a great fighter the respect he deserves.

Have a nice day.

[SonOfCuba]

Put it his way, Calzaghe has nothing left to prove to boxing fans... we all know what his made of, he is not a true great. Hopkins, Roy, Toney, Trinidad, Oscar, Whittiker, Chavez, Mayweathe, Morales have all proven themself to us thats why they have everyone's respect regardles of wether you like them or not. Calzaghe dosent get the respect he wants because he dosen't deserve it, its simple.

[Addition]

joe has no world titles and fought 2 40 year olds at lightheavy...dawsons been cleaning out the division..you cant fight 2 fights in a division and be the best..

Oh well, it is what it is.

Fighting Dawson does nothing for Calzaghe, just gets critized like he always does.

[larryx]

Oh well, it is what it is.

Fighting Dawson does nothing for Calzaghe, just gets critized like he always does.

it proves he'll lose and that is career is smoke and mirrors..joe isnt that good at all

[El Dominicano]

He hasn't beaten a young prime fighter on the P4P list. That is Chad yall

[Addition]

it proves he'll lose and that is career is smoke and mirrors..joe isnt that good at all

It does? How?

[_Hunter_]

It does? How?

Larryx get your ass back on here and reply to him!

[larryx]

Larryx get your ass back on here and reply to him!

calzaghes biggest assetts are speed and punch output...dawson is faster stronger and throws better combos...and hes younger...calzaghe may not last the distance to be honest

[Allucard]

That's just a catch phrase that all fighters say.

The fight game is about proving to yourself, to the fans, and the world.

ya know....when boxers say "i have nothing left to prove" bascially they're just saying that they've accomplished an objective that had major pressure affects.

In Joe C case there was no objective he accomplished. No tittle, nothing. He's a one division ex champion. Unless he considers beating a 40 year old, shot since 04 Roy Jones an accomplishment on itself, which is sad and funny at the same time.