Was Oscar De La Hoya ALWAYS overrated?????????????

[KingArthur]

I mean lets take a fight by fight approach............

Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, and Julio Cesar Chavez were ALL past their Primes and had each been in numerous battles before fighting a YOUNG De La Hoya......................in their primes I think De La Hoya would beat a Camacho but not a Whitaker or Chavez.

I've watched the Ike Quartey fight numerous times and my scores differ each time, but EVERY single time I watch that fight I have Ike winning.......Las Vegas was a HUGE De La Hoya NUTHUGGER

The Felix Trinidad fight is a toss up. Watching the fight live I first thought De La Hoya had won. As I rewatched the numerous times the best I conclude that the best decision for Oscar would have been a DRAW. I also concluded majority of the time I had Tito winning..............Now if Oscar didn't let up on the last couple of rounds he would have won in my opinion, needless to say he did therefore he lost.

After that its all downhill.........he win a OVERRATED, UN-INSPIRED Fernando Vargas, a Arturio Gatti who was 1. in a weight class he couldn't handle & 2. Never really an elite fight, just a really, really exciting one the fans loved, Javier Castillejo and Ramon Campas.....WHO????? then he loses 4 of his next 7 (5 of his next 7 because he lost to Strum in my opinion)

In conclusion Oscar De La Hoya was a really good fighter, but was he GREAT, as they are making him out to be. I truely believe his greatness is overrated.....

[ßringer]

I don't like it when people try to play the role of revisionist historian once a fighter falls off the cliff at the end of his career. So I'm not really going to say much here.

All I will say is that Oscar was always an amazing fighter with tremendous talents, who got an awful lot of slack for coming up short in a few of his biggest fights, and blatantly ripped off in one of them. (Tito).

[ACHlLLES]

I personally think he was to some extent, but he was still a good fighter. He isn't great though, and Manny's style would have ****ed with Oscar in his prime. The last time Oscar fought a southpaw was in 2001 I believe the announcers had said... Obviously a reason for that. Manny is no ordinary southpaw either, he is very quick on his feet and with his punches and he has power.



Bad style for Oscar to have picked, he should keep fighting the vargas and mayorgas of the world and stayed away from manny.

[KingArthur]

I don't like it when people try to play the role of revisionist historian once a fighter falls off the cliff at the end of his career. So I'm not really going to say much here.

All I will say is that Oscar was always an amazing fighter with tremendous talents, who got an awful lot of slack for coming up short in a few of his biggest fights, and blatantly ripped off in one of them. (Tito).

Bringer he stopped fighting, I mean he just stopped fight the last couple of rounds. Again I'm not saying he is a bad fighter or he was a bum, I'm just asking if his GREATNESS has been overrated? Oscar was great and he is one idols as well for his willingness to fight all comers but at the same time be a successful business man

[MANGLER]

He used to deserve the hype BITD. The past several years tho, he's just been a name.

[ßringer]

Bringer he stopped fighting, I mean he just stopped fight the last couple of rounds. Again I'm not saying he is a bad fighter or he was a bum, I'm just asking if his GREATNESS has been overrated? Oscar was great and he is one idols as well for his willingness to fight all comers but at the same time be a successful business man

I agree, Oscar completely stopped fighting against Tito. But that doesn't change the fact that he embarassed Tito for the first 8 rounds, and coasted the last 4. The worst the decision could've been was 116-112 De La Hoya.

Perhaps his greatness is overrated a bit, because of the star power, mega-millions, and big name. But he still deserves a spot on the list of the top 100 ATG's IMO.

And he should've gotten the nod in the second Mosley fight as well by my estimation.

He's come up short a few times and he's been given hell for it his entire career. Though ever since the Hopkins loss he's basically been a second stringer IMO.

[KingArthur]

I agree, Oscar completely stopped fighting against Tito. But that doesn't change the fact that he embarassed Tito for the first 8 rounds, and coasted the last 4. The worst the decision could've been was 116-112 De La Hoya.

Perhaps his greatness is overrated a bit, because of the star power, mega-millions, and big name. But he still deserves a spot on the list of the top 100 ATG's IMO.
And he should've gotten the nod in the second Mosley fight as well by my estimation.

He's come up short a few times and he's been given hell for it his entire career. Though ever since the Hopkins loss he's basically been a second stringer IMO.

Share the same thoughs but when Dundee compares him to Ali and everyone talking all time GREAT................come on, when it comes to star power and the amount of money generated yes he is ALL Time Great but if we're talking pure boxing..................

[ßringer]

Share the same thoughs but when Dundee compares him to Ali and everyone talking all time GREAT................come on, when it comes to star power and the amount of money generated yes he is ALL Time Great but if we're talking pure boxing..................

I don't think anybody in their right mind could put Oscar on the top 10, top 20, or top 30 ATG's list. But I think he deserves a nod in the top 50 somewhere.

Angelo is insane for comparing him to Muhammad though. It's almost as if the man has forgotten how amazing Ali was when he had him.

[larryx]

he hasnt been a fighter since the hopkins ko

[77Ritchie77]

oscar beat everybody easily until tito
imo he beat a PRIME tito 8-4 in a brilliant clinic.... but i can see up to 6-6 no way tito wins.
mosley 1 he lost - barely
mosley 2 - he won against a juicer
beat a juiced up prime vargas.
beat a prime quartey in round 12
closely won/draw/lost to sturm at middleweight
put up a good effort at least vs b-hops at middle
beat mayorga (nothing)
lost a close fight to floyd
after that he has been SHOT.
but no wasnt always overrated