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  • LEFTYGUNZZ
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    De La Hoya is NOT done!!!

    Ok fellas before you jump all over me and call me an idoit read the entire post. I saw the fight and yes I was amazed at how badily Oscar got beat. I was thinking we were going to see a good fight competitive and if anyone was going to be handing out punishment it would be De la Hoya handing out more then he was taking. But Manny showed us that speed is the main factor in boxing. If you have the advantage with hands speed and you carry some power you can dominate just about anybody no matter what the weight class.

    manny didn't just look faster but he looked light years faster on Saturday night. I kept telling myself I was dreaming I even pinched myself to make sure I was awake. I had to stand up after the 6th round and turn away from the TV because I couldn't belive what I was seeing. It was like Manny almost didn't want to finish him he would pull back off the ropes and waive Oscar in. Like as if he was asking Oscar bring the fight to me. Many think that if Oscar had fought Cotto or Marg they would have disposed of Oscar just as easily. I beg to differ and I will tell you why.

    Oscar main issue Saturday night was speed. Lightening fast greasy speed just like Mickey said in Rocky II. If you can catch this chicken you can catch Creed. Well I bet Nacho didn't have Oscar chaing any chickens during his trainin camp. Point is Marg is a come forward face first puncher who doesn't punch that hard but throws alot of punches. Oscar could out box Marg for a few rounds and put up more of a fight then he showed us this past Saturday. Heck he might even be able to bet marg if he got Marg to agree to fight him at 154. marg would nver bounce on his feet and jump around the ring on his way in like PACMAN did. marg would be getting tagged with Oscars jab. End point is although I think marg would beat Oscar he would have had more a fight on his nads then PACMAN did.

    Cotto same thought here is not as fast as PACMAN. Doesnt not move around as much on his way in. Don't think Oscar could out box him as easily as Marg but I think he would be easier to hit then PAC was Saturday ngiht.All in all I think it would have been a more competitive fight than we saw Saturday when the so Called Dream Match took place ...More like Oscar's Night mare.....Lefty
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    #2
    Originally posted by luckylefty731
    Ok fellas before you jump all over me and call me an idoit read the entire post. I saw the fight and yes I was amazed at how badily Oscar got beat. I was thinking we were going to see a good fight competitive and if anyone was going to be handing out punishment it would be De la Hoya handing out more then he was taking. But Manny showed us that speed is the main factor in boxing. If you have the advantage with hands speed and you carry some power you can dominate just about anybody no matter what the weight class.

    manny didn't just look faster but he looked light years faster on Saturday night. I kept telling myself I was dreaming I even pinched myself to make sure I was awake. I had to stand up after the 6th round and turn away from the TV because I couldn't belive what I was seeing. It was like Manny almost didn't want to finish him he would pull back off the ropes and waive Oscar in. Like as if he was asking Oscar bring the fight to me. Many think that if Oscar had fought Cotto or Marg they would have disposed of Oscar just as easily. I beg to differ and I will tell you why.

    Oscar main issue Saturday night was speed. Lightening fast greasy speed just like Mickey said in Rocky II. If you can catch this chicken you can catch Creed. Well I bet Nacho didn't have Oscar chaing any chickens during his trainin camp. Point is Marg is a come forward face first puncher who doesn't punch that hard but throws alot of punches. Oscar could out box Marg for a few rounds and put up more of a fight then he showed us this past Saturday. Heck he might even be able to bet marg if he got Marg to agree to fight him at 154. marg would nver bounce on his feet and jump around the ring on his way in like PACMAN did. marg would be getting tagged with Oscars jab. End point is although I think marg would beat Oscar he would have had more a fight on his nads then PACMAN did.

    Cotto same thought here is not as fast as PACMAN. Doesnt not move around as much on his way in. Don't think Oscar could out box him as easily as Marg but I think he would be easier to hit then PAC was Saturday ngiht.All in all I think it would have been a more competitive fight than we saw Saturday when the so Called Dream Match took place ...More like Oscar's Night mare.....Lefty


    i posted this a few minutes ago in another thread


    Oscar probably has more left than what he showed against Pac, making the 147 limit was a massive factor along with Pac's superiority

    Dont get me wrong he has delined a lot, but i think he probably has more left than what he showed against Pac.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Terrible...
      i posted this a few minutes ago in another thread


      Oscar probably has more left than what he showed against Pac, making the 147 limit was a massive factor along with Pac's superiority

      Dont get me wrong he has delined a lot, but i think he probably has more left than what he showed against Pac.
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      Agreed sir I think if he was in there with someone who doesnt have the hand speed of PACMAN and lets face it not many do. I mean the guy kept his Feather Wieight hand speed and brought Welter Weight power. Amazing not many can do that...Lefty

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        #4
        Originally posted by luckylefty731
        Ok fellas before you jump all over me and call me an idoit read the entire post. I saw the fight and yes I was amazed at how badily Oscar got beat. I was thinking we were going to see a good fight competitive and if anyone was going to be handing out punishment it would be De la Hoya handing out more then he was taking. But Manny showed us that speed is the main factor in boxing. If you have the advantage with hands speed and you carry some power you can dominate just about anybody no matter what the weight class.

        manny didn't just look faster but he looked light years faster on Saturday night. I kept telling myself I was dreaming I even pinched myself to make sure I was awake. I had to stand up after the 6th round and turn away from the TV because I couldn't belive what I was seeing. It was like Manny almost didn't want to finish him he would pull back off the ropes and waive Oscar in. Like as if he was asking Oscar bring the fight to me. Many think that if Oscar had fought Cotto or Marg they would have disposed of Oscar just as easily. I beg to differ and I will tell you why.

        Oscar main issue Saturday night was speed. Lightening fast greasy speed just like Mickey said in Rocky II. If you can catch this chicken you can catch Creed. Well I bet Nacho didn't have Oscar chaing any chickens during his trainin camp. Point is Marg is a come forward face first puncher who doesn't punch that hard but throws alot of punches. Oscar could out box Marg for a few rounds and put up more of a fight then he showed us this past Saturday. Heck he might even be able to bet marg if he got Marg to agree to fight him at 154. marg would nver bounce on his feet and jump around the ring on his way in like PACMAN did. marg would be getting tagged with Oscars jab. End point is although I think marg would beat Oscar he would have had more a fight on his nads then PACMAN did.

        Cotto same thought here is not as fast as PACMAN. Doesnt not move around as much on his way in. Don't think Oscar could out box him as easily as Marg but I think he would be easier to hit then PAC was Saturday ngiht.All in all I think it would have been a more competitive fight than we saw Saturday when the so Called Dream Match took place ...More like Oscar's Night mare.....Lefty
        Good post.

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          #5
          Originally posted by luckylefty731
          Agreed sir I think if he was in there with someone who doesnt have the hand speed of PACMAN and lets face it not many do. I mean the guy kept his Feather Wieight hand speed and brought Welter Weight power. Amazing not many can do that...Lefty
          At 147 he can forget it though, i think weight draining was a huge factor in this fight.

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            #6
            it was definitly the weight..and pacman

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              #7
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              At 147 he can forget it though, i think weight draining was a huge factor in this fight.
              154 or catch weight of like 150. The big thing for me is he came in at 147 on fight night Oscar was worried too much about them saying he was going to beat a smaller man that he ended up forgetting to beat the smaller man....Lefty

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                #8
                My boy doesnt have the hunger anymore. When Manny was in close and hitting Oscar, Osacr took the shots and never fired back. Manny was fast, real fast, this was an Oscar that I have never seen or ever thought I would see.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  At 147 he can forget it though, i think weight draining was a huge factor in this fight.
                  He looked physically weak entering the ring.

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                    #10
                    I think if he fought Marg he'd get stopped. He would just break him down to the body. Pac had him hurt with some of those body combinations as well.

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