Who changed their minds right before the fight?

**The Gully Gad** · 12-08-2008, 04:27 AM

Not being big headed or i told you so bull**** but i knew when this fight
was signed pac would win/
The signs were in the forbes fight Hoya looked flat stale and past his sell by date
Didnt think it would be in that manor i thought manny would squeeze a Split or get a UD..

**The Surgeon** · 12-08-2008, 04:44 AM

I never bet on this fight coz i THOUGHT Oscar would KO him but had a weird feeling Manny COULD win, as they were being introduced me and one of my equally drunk friends did a dare bet, i picked Pac to win after predicting Oscar all along, and when he did my mate had to STREAK Bollock naked around the block lol Classic!!!

**CaRnAgEViOLaToR** · 12-08-2008, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by The Gully Gad

Not being big headed or i told you so bull**** but i knew when this fight
was signed pac would win/
The signs were in the forbes fight Hoya looked flat stale and past his sell by date
Didnt think it would be in that manor i thought manny would squeeze a Split or get a UD..

same here. i thought de la hoya looked washed up against forbes who is feather fisted and maybe even smaller than pac. i thought manny was gonna win 8-4, 9-3 because of how de la hoya gasses in the late rounds but i too wasnt expecting that embarrassing beatdown.

**KILLA RIGHT** · 12-08-2008, 01:46 PM

U guys ever seen this happen before where the bigger fighter goes down on weight makes it by 2 pounds under the limit then can't go up in weight but 2 pounds?

**larryx** · 12-08-2008, 01:47 PM

watching oscar spar on 24/7 changed my mind..and i made a thread about it

**mellow_mood** · 12-08-2008, 02:21 PM

im not gonna talk ****.... i though oscar was going to win & by KO!! pac just prove me wrong... nothing bad with that..>!!

I was wrong ... and im glad I was....

its pactime!!!!

**wmute** · 12-08-2008, 03:44 PM

When i saw the unofficial weight I was like "NOW this is going to be interesting..."

**Dambala** · 12-08-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by wmute

When i saw the unofficial weight I was like "NOW this is going to be interesting..."

Me too, just a few days before the fight I notice that Manny was @147 the night he fought Diaz, and he was a beast that night. I expected Oscar to be at least weighting 155pds.So I knew since then.

**TintaBoricua** · 12-08-2008, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by mellow_mood

im not gonna talk ****.... i though oscar was going to win & by KO!! pac just prove me wrong... nothing bad with that..>!!

I was wrong ... and im glad I was....

its pactime!!!!

Same here.

I went over to my girlfriend's house and everybody was just kinda' quiet and stuff ('cause we couldn't get the fight). After everybody left, we all just watched movies and talked...then my girlfriend's mother received a call late at night from someone saying that Juanma had won by TKO in the first...I was giddy.

Then, when I came home around 12 I tried to get into the site and found everything was so slow because of the numerous members on the board at the time. As soon as I came into the MAIN PAGE of the forums...the recently posted message was on a thread titled: "Manny Pacquiao pound for pound #1". And I thought, "Hell, no! No way Pacquiao just won!" When I FINALLY got into the forums, I was shocked at how many threads around stating that Oscar had quit...my dad was asleep, and I wanted to wake him badly to tell him about the news...but, oh well...

I thought to myself, "Wow...this is incredible! To think that Manny Pacquiao, when more than half of the media thought he would lose...he came out and won it. Not by a split decision, not by a uninanimous decision, not by a shutout...but instead a TKO victory. Oscar quit."

Nevertheless, not taking anything away from Pacquiao...he was impressive IN HIS OWN RIGHT: ducking, bobbing, punching in then moving out, lateral movement, good defense, hard punches, fantastic combinations...but Oscar was soooooooooooo out of it. I know Oscar looked skinny (you could tell from his face) in the 24/7 series, but I didn't think he would look that bad, not referring to the fight, but instead his body. He didn't look as bad as Erik Morales when he fought Pacquiao the second time, but he looked unusually skinny. It was like he trained to make weight. His physique seemed so much better at 154, here he looked out of it. Sure enough, it affected him. Manny Pacquiao moving up another two weight classes against Oscar moving down ONE weight class turned out to be worse (surprisingly) for De la Hoya.

BTW, I keep wondering why De la Hoya only gained 2 pounds and chose to stay at the welterweight limit instead of re-hydrating more. You'd think, as Lampley said during the fight, that Oscar would've came into the fight after the weigh-in 13 pounds heavier (around 160, or at least 156-157). Did Oscar stay at 147 so he could look back in retrospect and be able to say that he beat Pacquiao without having a big weight advantage? I dunno. Whatever the reason, it's clear he shouldn't fight at that weight class, and probably shouldn't consider fighting either. His last fights have been up and down, having lost half of them. Victories in which he's beaten a clear underdog in Steve Forbes, a predictably outclassed Ricardo Mayorga and who else, "I love eating left hooks" Fernando Vargas?

"Pay-Per-View" Oscar...you've had several glorious and star-studded nights, you've made abnormally huge amounts of money...you fought against the best in the business, with mixed results and a fascinating career, but if there was a time to call it quits, this would be it right here. Yes, you've been stopped before, but this is the first time you've been convincingly stopped and you were never in the fight to begin with. Six losses (five because of Mosley's steroids in the second fight, and four if you give him the Trinidad fight, and three if you give him a draw with Mayweather), there's nothing to be shamed about. Pass on the torch to the younger, hungrier, admirable, skilled and exciting fighter that you were bested by this past Saturday.

As for Pacquiao, good win and all. I am exceptionally happy for Manny Pacquiao and can only IMAGINE, yet nowhere near comprehend, what the Phillippines must've been like Saturday night and Sunday morning...it has to be a great time to be a Filipino. I eagerly await his next matches and he has really made me a fan of his. There's something special about Manny Pacquiao, and if you can't tell that yet, then you'd be either ignorant or just a fanatical Mexican (no disrespect to Mexicans. I think Margarito is a bad-ass.)

Speaking of Margarito, looking back on "The Dream Match", there was a part in the fight while Oscar was being battered that Lampley asked Larry Merchant if he could see Pacquiao taking on Antonio Margarito. Pacquiao's performance was great, but good job to Larry for shooting down that idea. I'm sure it would be a big event (a spectacle more accurately), but on paper it doesn't sound good when you consider all the factors. I immediately shook my head as I was watching the fight myself after having downloaded it, thinking "Pacquiao is man-handling Oscar, but there is no way Pacquiao would do this against Antonio". That was something that made me scoff, but I won't get into it. I give Pacquiao all the credit in the world. People say that "Oh, he beat an over the hill inactive De la Hoya"...BUT, the fact is...

If you gave Oscar a chance at beating Pacquiao, then you should give Pacquiao credit for beating him (THE favorite in the fight)...end of story.

Can't wait for Hatton-Pacquiao!

Who changed their minds right before the fight?