BoxingScene.com's Updated Pound For Pound List

[bigflip55]

damn good list if you ask me. i would have liked to see vic up there but he made some good points and dawson deserves it a lil more i belive :****you:

[PaiidINFULLent.]

I hate to dispute anyones list but by next year they should remove the ledgendary Benard Hopkins & Joe Calzaghe because I believe both respected champions will retire. I also got Chad Dawson higher, but the list was a good one. Soon to be on the list will be Andre Berto. I hope JuaMa Lopez can get in their soon also.

[PaiidINFULLent.]

Tim Bradley also for soon to come.

[FLY TY]

"Therefore those who know martial arts do not wander when they move, and do not become exhausted when they rise up. So it is said that when you know yourself and others, victory is not in danger; when you know sky and earth, victory is inexhaustible."

- Sun Tzu, The Art of War


Fights I want to happen in 2009

1. Hatton VS Pacquiao for the Lineal Junior Welterweight Title. If Manny wins this will be a 4 Lineal World Champion
2. Juan Marquez VS Nate Campbell for the Linela Lightweight and unification of the belts. Whoever wins should fight Manny. If Manny wins he would be the a 5 lineal world champion
3. Margarito VS Cotto - Whoever wins should fight Manny. If Manny wins again he will be 6 lineal world champion (assuming Margarito wins vs Mosley)
4. Mayweather VS Pacquaio (if PBF ever returns)

5. JuanMa Lopez VS Israel Vasquez or Celestino Caballero or Penalosa
6. Vic Darchinyan VS Fernando Montiel (the winner facing Donaire)
7. Calzaghe VS Dawson or rematch with Hopkins
8. Pavlik VS Abraham
9. Calderon VS Ulises Solis or Edgar Sosa (The 3 should unify)
10. Wladimir Klitschko VS Vitali Klitschko

If all these fights happen 2009 would be explosive for boxing.


You? What fights do you want to happen next year? I hope the promoters have an online system in which the fans can vote on the fights they want to see.

i think margarito may be a bit of a stretch for pacman, but **** i'll never doubt him again, unless he fights mayweather. but it'd be ballsy for pac to fight margarito.....

Where is Hatton? Never defeated at jr welterweight and doesn't get a sniff, that's what I call American bias. Kessler, Dawson... what have they done yet? Williams beat Margarito, but it's not like he aint been beat before, and other than that win what has Williams done of any significance? I cant wait until Hatton will beats Pacquiao then the world will wake up!!!! I doubt Hatton would even make the list if it's a split decision in favour of Pacman, that's how ****ed up people's views are on him. We'll see...

hatton beat kosta how many years ago? since then who has he beaten? oh yea paulie malinaggi......after he got KTFO......that's why hatton aint there.

i will second only the william part. he beat margarito over a year ago. so if cotto beat margarito where in the list should he be??

IF cotto hadn't lost, and IF margarito had beaten PW, cotto would've been there.......

FAO Cliff Rold:

For the sake of argument could you tell what your top3 would have been had DLH crushed Pac and not the other way around?

-Who'd be no.1?
-Where'd DLH be?

i doubt DLH would've sniffed the P4P list, even by beating pac.....remember DLH was "supposed" to win this fight.....i've always said this was a no win for DLH besides his bank account, and this was a win-win for pacman. if DLH had won, every1 would've been like "so what" he beat a smaller guy, he was supposed to beat. pac might've dropped on the P4P list, but to no lower than 2 or 3 IMO.....

im not sure about Dawson being on there i would replace him with Cotto. and i would have JMM over both Calzaghe and Hopkins

Can't agree with Hopkins being #3 and Dawson being #10. Hopkins maybe deserves 9 or 10, but not a #3. As for Dawson, he doesn't even belong here. How about putting up Miguel Cotto, Juanma Lopez, Kelly Pavlik or even Ricky Hatton?

dawson's an UNDEFEATED champ who's last 2 opponents were TOP 4-5 in his weightclass.....thats how he gets there. when he loses like those guys you just named, i'm sure they'll make their way onto the list.....

I hate to dispute anyones list but by next year they should remove the ledgendary Benard Hopkins & Joe Calzaghe because I believe both respected champions will retire. I also got Chad Dawson higher, but the list was a good one. Soon to be on the list will be Andre Berto. I hope JuaMa Lopez can get in their soon also.

cosign. no1 else for hopkins to fight, cuz i doubt calzaghe will do a rematch, so hopkins will probably retire, but you never know, he likes to surprise ppl.....
calzaghe retires in 09, too. he fights dawson, and dawson retires him.

[PRboxingfan]

dawson's an UNDEFEATED champ who's last 2 opponents were TOP 4-5 in his weightclass.....thats how he gets there. when he loses like those guys you just named, i'm sure they'll make their way onto the list.....

So is Tim Bradley, Jorge Linares, and Edwin Valero. Does that make them a P4P candidate? Chad Dawson has beat a 38 year old Johnson and a 39 year old Tarver. Yeah, very impressive

Call me when he beats Calzaghe or Hopkins, the top 2 in his weight class.

Also, having three light heavyweights is insulting to those who deserve it in lower weight classes like Darchinyan, Montiel, Juan Manuel Lopez, Nate Campbell, Ricky Hatton, or even Arthur Abraham.

[FatNJerseykid]

No Doubt about it, Pacquiao is the fighter of the decade, in terms of his accomplishments in the ring. Also, he is now undisputed pound for pound fighter in the world. Hopefully Mayweather comes out of retirement to face this guy to settle any doubts.

[Bobboboxer]

Where is Ricky Hatton? The guy has lost 1 fight at 147 against the p4p best. He is undefeated at 140 and he gets no respect ... disgusting to be fair. Chad Dawson? Come on now ...

[BetterCallSaul]

Dawson and P Will above Hatton renders this list null and void.

[crold1]

Dawson and P Will above Hatton renders this list null and void.

I disagree. Both have better physical tools and better skill sets. Hatton could be on some lists; I just don't see him as one of the ten best fighters in the sport. He looked TERRIBLE against Collazo, average against Urango, and if not for a VERY friendly ref and an untied shoelace, he loses to an ancient Lazcano. He fought his ass off versus Mayweather and did well with Malignaggi but beating Paulie isn't P4P stuff. Just MO. It's not like I think he's bad. I gave him a decent shot against Mayweather because I don't see huge gaps between fighters on lists like these. These are all elite level fighters and, P4P, if they were all the same size, you'd see some wild outcomes.

As to an earlier question, it's hard to tell what happens with a DLH that isn't shot and how that affects. I've had Pac in and out of #1 since the second 2006 Morales fight. If DLH had showed stopped Pac, I probably drop him between B-Hop and JMM. If he lost a decision, and it was wide, probably between Cal and Hop. If he lost a narrow decision, I probably leave him at 1.

None of that happened and we would have to see a different fight to know.

[ACHlLLES]

I wish boxingscene had kept miguel cotto on the list, but eh... What can you do about it? I guess he has to avenge his loss to Margarito to get back on boxingscenes p4p.